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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Crimes against feminism 'The surrendered wife'

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Walkingdead11 · 24/09/2017 12:33

Discuss............

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DJBaggySmalls · 24/09/2017 13:23

It seems to be more appropriate to American culture, which is different from UK culture.
''The author of the core book of this movement maintains that she does not advocate submissiveness or the surrendering of one's self; she proposes the surrendering of control over others.''
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrendered_wife

I dont have a problem with that philosophy. But the principles dont bear that claim out, especially principles 4, 5 and 6 which are infantile.
I believe we need to study maturity as a foundation for equality. Celebrity and beauty culture work against maturity.

''The "Surrendered Wives" movement is centered on six basic principles:

  1. a wife relinquishes control of her husband's life
  2. she respects his decisions for his life
  3. she practices good self-care (she does at least three things a day for her own enjoyment)
  4. she practices expressing gratitude (thanking her husband for the things he does)
  5. a surrendered wife is not afraid to show her vulnerability and take the feminine approach
  6. she trusts him to handle household finances Continuing in an abusive, alcoholic, or adulterous relationship is not promoted or condoned.''
theendisnotnigh · 24/09/2017 13:28

A crime against humanity?
Teaching that humans are not equal and that being submissive to another (on the basis that they're a man) is a route to a happy relationship?

whoputthecatout · 24/09/2017 13:50

The day we get a book called The Surrendered Husband, I'll give it some thought. Until then fuck off.

SophoclesTheFox · 24/09/2017 14:27

What the blinking flip is "the feminine approach"??

Surrendered wife philosophy is horseshit from go to whoa. Cod psychology and mindless adherence to sex role stereotypes, to try to make women less unhappy about being married to thoughtless oafs.

No, actually, I'll walk that back a little. It is a good and mature thing to recognise that ultimately we don't have any control over the behaviour of others. That is fine. The rest? Nah.

What do you think, OP?

Walkingdead11 · 24/09/2017 14:31

Oh I think it's the biggest load of horse shit I've ever heard of.....I think women who adhere to such nonsense should be sectioned asap.........

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makeourfuture · 24/09/2017 14:31

There is a bit of an American protestant religious element to the surrendered wife philosophy.

PaintingByNumbers · 24/09/2017 14:33

1-4 fine, and the husband should be the same
5 - no need for 'feminine' approach bit
6 - wtf?????

retreatwhispering · 24/09/2017 19:33

This philosophy is very specific to a certain vein of American evangelical Christianity. Lots of dog whistle evangelical Christianese in those six principles.

AdultHumanFemale · 26/09/2017 00:07

Having looked into this, prompted by a friend who swears by it, I think it should probably be re-branded something like 'the wife who chills right out, minds her own business and is much happier for it'. It is targeted at an audience of aspiring, micro-managing domestic tyrants who wonder why their relationships are unfulfilling. The excerpts I have read are all of wives 'striving to get the best' out of their good for nothing, disappointing spouses, only to realise that when you get off people's cases, credit them with agency and afford them respect and autonomy, things tend to look up.

AdultHumanFemale · 26/09/2017 10:46

Reflecting on this, I also think there is something in there about the unquestioning performance of 'wife' , with all the attendant sex stereotypes ('feminine approach' etc), and that really, the book ought to be an invitation to surrender the role / costume of 'wife' as interpreted by a particular demographic, and try just human, conducting relationships with awareness.

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