Men/Whites/Woman - what's the difference?

[Identifiesaspissedoff]

As the other thread got deleted can I rant here please?

Do people seriously not get that the difference between 'men only' spaces 'whites only' spaces and 'woman only' spaces is that woman have (and still are) been an oppressed group whereas men and whites have traditionally been the oppressors? Is men wanting to enter woman's spaces not a bit like whites demanding the right to enter Native American reservations? Or am I not getting it? If I am getting it how do I get it through to others?

Mainly a lurker, but I'm starting to really like this board and am very impressed with a lot of the posters on it.

User, if you can't be arsed to do your own Google search, I'm certainly not going to do it for you.

And it's always splendid to find yet another person who couldn't give a shit about girls' experiences of sexual assault, as long as your boys get to go to mixed schools, because the same research you couldn't bother your arse to look up also suggests that boys do better in mixed sex schools than they would in Lord Farquar's School for young gentlemen.

Yeah, and I think decent men feel the same about men only meetings that aren't for the purpose of discussing embarrassing prostate problems, or something. The only thing I can think of that would be done in a whites only group is racism.

Indeed, what would white people talk about that they'd be embarrassed discussing in front of black people? Sunburn?

And yet, all research suggests that girls do better in single sex schools, and, as I want women and girls to achieve as highly as they possibly can, then single sex schools are the way forward for girls.

How do you measure success? I came out of a girls' school with a string of qualifications but no self esteem and no social skills.

It also helps to protect girls from the endless sexual assaults/jibes/bullying they get from boys in mixed sex schools. Anything that protects girls from that is positive.

You can be sexually assaulted in a girls' school, and in some ways it is harder to complain about because it is a) from a teacher or b) if you complain you will be called a lesbian and in an RC girls school in the 1980s that was the worst thing you could be called.

As for certain spaces for certain people, I think it is all about power and that in some cases there should be exceptions eg men rarely get breast cancer but it does happen, some of their care is exactly the same as women, other aspects of care are different.

In something like breast cancer I can see an exception, a man on a female surgical ward but with his own room perhaps - not sure, not had coffee yet.