"Women can rape too"

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I was told yesterday when we were having a conversation about why I think it's problematic to allow trans women in women safe spaces.

As you can imagine, it got very heated when I mentioned that only men can rape by the legal definition. I am prepared to be corrected on this.
I am not denying that sexual violence committed by women, against men, doesn't exist, but should we ever discuss this topic again, then I would like to be armed with the facts. Does anyone here know a good article or report about this subject? Where could I find data comparing sexes of the perpetrator of sexual violence and are there any well known cases where women have been charged and convicted of rape?

Thanks in advance.

OP, have you asked this person what he thinks why there are women's prisons and men's prisons? Does he think this was invented just for fun, or what? It massively disadvantages women, as they are imprisoned far away from their hometowns and their relatives can't visit as often because of this, there's not as many work opportunities in women's prisons, etc.
And yet, this is the system we have had for decades, it has worked, and it is considered good by everyone except transwacktivists.

(A transwacktivist might be misogynist enough to just not care, but many try to pretend that transwomen are totes different from other males and that no rapist ever would identify into a women's prison)

Also ask why he thinks women should be subject not only to prison rape (which cannot always be prevented) but also to pregnancy by rape in prisons, which used to be perfectly preventable by separating the sexes.

He can pull lies out of his ass about how much more men rape, but he won't be able to deny that only the bepenised half of the population can impregnate someone, regardless of gender identity.

... sorry, that was nonsense, of course pregnancy by prison rape is still perfectly preventable by separating the sexes.

It is just not being done anymore.

I believe that there are some states in the US where legally a woman can rape a man (I think it's to do with inserting objects and body parts into orifices, rather than forced PIV sex)

One of my male friends was raped, and the papers agreed not to cover the case because it was almost impossible to do so in a way that would have protected his anonymity (very particular set of circumstances). Obviously that was the right thing to do for the victim but it does mean that there is only the court record of the trial in the public domain, which not many of us go and read unless we are looking for something in particular.

What do female rapists have to do with allowing someone with a penis into a womens prison?
I dont think he is genuinely interested in your opinion or any statistics, he sounds like he just wants a row. 'But women do it too' is the classic MRA comeback and in most contexts its meaningless.

It doesn't DJBaggySmalls, he just couldn't understand why I was against a transwoman going to a women's only prison and told me that I shouldn't call a transwoman "trans" because they're woman too and therefore should be treated as such. I started to talk about the risk of women inmates being raped because of the presence of a dangerous criminal who happens to be a man, and that was when the conversation took a turn.....

Vestal, unfortunately I didn't get round to asking him why he thinks we already have segregated prisons. I agree with some pps, that perhaps he just wanted a row and say that men are just as vulnerable which is code for "women are just as bad" and therefore minimalising the reality of oppression against women.

It always feels disingenuous to me when people switch between the casual and legal definitions of rape. Stick with one or the other.