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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Horrified by the prospect of a deal with the DUP

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MrsFogi · 09/06/2017 23:36

Just that really - I can't believe we may have a government propped up by a party with such a backward stance on reproductive rights. I will be doing all I can over the coming days to raise awareness of everyone around me about the DUP's stance on this and other issues and the risk to the Stormont talks. Interesting video

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Xenophile · 10/06/2017 10:56

There already is a feminist task force in NI. Again, if you knew anything about the situation there, you'd know that.

This isn't about officious intervention in NI. You're banging the wrong drum.

SeanSpicer · 10/06/2017 11:33

Don't know if you saw this on twitter nyancat but someone described the DUP manifesto as the Bible with fortnightly bin collections. I haven't read it but that pretty much tallies with your experience.

Miffer · 10/06/2017 12:22

Carolinesbeanies

I've campaigned for abortion rights for NI women, I have given practical support to NI women seeking abortion over here, I got into it because my good friend (and feminist activist) is from Derry and is part of a group that has been campaigning for years.

I would have thought your tone deaf response to nyancat would have given you pause to look into things before continuing to spout nonsense.

cheeseknight · 10/06/2017 21:14

Just going to put this here...

www.thejournal.ie/sammy-wilson-breastfeeding-2890822-Jul2016/

Horrified by the prospect of a deal with the DUP
LassWiTheDelicateAir · 10/06/2017 23:36

Posted by PigletwasPoohsFriend on one of the other threads.

There will be no debate

It has beenabled confirmed that There is no coalition and there is no formal agreement.

It will be a 'supply and confidence' which is virtually as it is now as that is how they tend to vote.

Election 2017: No 10 confirms principles of deal between Tories and DUP – live

www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2017/jun/10/general-election-2017-theresa-may-team-dup-live?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

www.google.co.uk/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/40236152

Xenophile · 11/06/2017 09:48

Yes Lass, but ANY kind of deal is going to cause massive problems with the GFA because it will alter the balance of power and end the pretence of Westminster's impartiality on which the power sharing devolved government and GFA are predicated.

The power sharing govt in NI is presently suspended because Arlene Foster is heavily implicated in the cash for energy corruption scandal and SF quite reasonably want her to step down as leader of the DUP during the investigation. Westminster is supposed to be brokering a deal between the two major parties on this, but now that the Conservatives need the DUP vote in order to be able to function, it will inevitably tilt the bias toward the DUP position.

If this carries on the question of hard or soft borders may well be moot due to their being a real probability of a united Ireland which remains in the EU in it's entirety.

RhythmAndStealth · 11/06/2017 22:46

Copied and pasted from a legal newsletter I receive. This is exactly the sort of area that co-operation with the DUP will affect. As if it's not a bad enough situation already:

The Supreme Court will rule next week on a challenge to the Secretary of State for Health over his failure to make abortion available on the NHS in England to women from Northern Ireland.

Judgment in R (on the application of A and B) (Appellants) v Secretary of State for Health (Respondent) will be handed down on Wednesday 14 June at 9.45am.

The issues in this case are:
Was the Secretary of State for Health's failure to exercise his power to require that abortion services be provided through the NHS in England to women ordinarily resident in Northern Ireland unlawful, in that he failed to discharge his duty under s.3 of the NHS Act 2006 to "take such steps as he considers necessary to meet all reasonable requirements" for services?

Does the continuing failure to provide abortion services free of charge in England to women ordinarily resident in Northern Ireland infringe art.14 and art.8 of the European Convention of Human Rights (ECHR)?
In 2012, A, a young woman of 15 resident in Northern Ireland, fell pregnant. In order to obtain an abortion, she used the services of a private clinic in England with B, her mother (and her litigation friend in these proceedings), at a total cost of £900 (including travel).

She did so because she reasonably believed that abortion services would not be available to her in Northern Ireland or through the NHS in England because she was ordinarily resident in Northern Ireland. The Abortion Act 1967, which liberalised the law of abortion, does not extend to Northern Ireland.

It would be within the power of the Secretary of State to make greater provision for abortion services to be provided to women from Northern Ireland through the NHS in England but, save in exceptional cases, he had not exercised that power at the material time and has not done so since. A brought proceedings for judicial review.

She contended that the failure to exercise the Secretary of State's power and the continuation of the exclusionary policy applicable (inter alia) to women ordinarily resident in Northern Ireland was unlawful. The claim was dismissed and the Court of Appeal dismissed the appeal.

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