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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Alternative endings to rudyard Kipling 'If'

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reikizen · 03/05/2017 19:01

I enjoy the poem but have an obvious problem with the 'you will be a man, my son' ending. Does anyone have any suggestions for female alternatives?

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rumblingDMexploitingbstds · 06/05/2017 12:20

If I remember right, 'If' was written before his son John or I think any of his children were born - he apologised profusely to John aged about ten, when John was angry that boys kept declaiming the poem at him at school, and said it had never occurred to him a future son might suffer that way. Rather like poor Christopher Robin's father dropped him right in it at school. There was a parody in a newspaper at the time:

George Percy said to his nursey
"Nursey" he said, said he
"Would you please tell father I'd very much rather
He didn't write books about me."

TheLuminaries · 06/05/2017 12:21

Yes and Kiplings Epitaphs of the War, including: “If any question why we died/Tell them, because our fathers lied" and his tireless work for the war graves commission shows Kipling felt deeply about his son's death.

Annahibiscuits · 06/05/2017 12:24

Love this Grin

I have it on the wall, typed as 'you'll be a woman my child'....definitely going to redo it as the 'hun' version

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