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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Confinement

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stereolove · 20/04/2017 22:09

Hi all. I'm very new and only 8 weeks pregnant. I'm trying to find my way through what's to come with EVERYTHING. At the moment I'm most freaked out about work and mat leave so I emailed the HR helpdesk (I work for an enormous third sector housing provider where HR is 400 miles away) and asked for clarity on enhanced mat pay, as opposed to statutory. Now I'm disappointed in general with what I'm entitled to but that is not my main gripe right now. The issue I have is that the admin assistant who emailed back said "as your confinement begins on..." Am I right to be seriously naffed off by use of the word confinement? I've read enough bodice rippers and historical writings to associate this most definitely with locking women away for the last three months of a pregnancy. I find it archaic and stinking of misogyny and condescension. Or is it just the hormones?

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Wondermoomin · 20/04/2017 22:11

Yes it's shit wording but it's what the government uses in all the bumph about SMP etc hence HR uses it. Hmm

Datun · 20/04/2017 22:15

It's completely outdated and should be signed to the bin along with covering up the legs on a piano.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 20/04/2017 22:47

I don't think the Government and the DWP does use that term. This is an example of the sort of language on Gov.UK site.

Statutory Maternity Pay (SMP)
Employees must:

be on your payroll in the ‘qualifying week’ - the 15th week before the expected week of childbirth

Wondermoomin · 20/04/2017 22:56

Pass yes, they do. EWC is the standard term in a lot of gov stuff.

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Wondermoomin · 20/04/2017 22:57

Lass not Pass bloody autocorrect!!

stereolove · 21/04/2017 12:06

I sent a snarky email back asking them to reconsider use of the term. Might have jumped the gun but it was either that or I would have gone on a massive rant about the hatchet job they did to our terms and conditions last summer.

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Prawnofthepatriarchy · 21/04/2017 12:44

The term "confinement" doesn't imply that the woman was locked up. In the past it was a period from the last bit of pregnancy, when people feared exertion might trigger labour, to the first few weeks post partum. The sole purpose was to protect mother and baby. In those days people thought extended bed rest was good for new and expectant mothers. Confinement excused women from work and social life while recovering from delivery and establishing breastfeeding. Of course there was a lot more physical work in being a SAHM.

I'm well over 50 and my mother was confined with me and my two brothers. She loved it. Two weeks in the cottage hospital just bonding with her newborn while her mum looked after the home and existing kids. She said she thought her generation had it better than new mothers chucked out of hospital in under 24 hours.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 21/04/2017 12:51

Should have said that the idea excused women from all normal obligations. In a more rigid age, women were expected to conform to loads of social rules, which varied depending on social class. During confinement this was all put on hold, excusing women from these expectations.

NurseMama · 26/04/2017 13:04

I was shocked as well when I saw the word on my MATB1! As if we're going to be shut up in a dark room with only the company of a few old women!

starlight57 · 11/07/2017 16:17

Yes. It's more of letting us have better rest and recovery after the delivery. "Confinement nanny" are much sought after by families to help take care of baby and mummy, cook meals, household chores.
www.nannysos.com.sg/

SpaghettiAndMeatballs · 11/07/2017 16:55

That's in Asia - I had chinese friends in Hong Kong and Malaysia who did the whole shebang - special cleansing products (not supposed to wash), not leaving the house, some soup which seemed to be mainly made of vinegar etc.

It's not a thing like that in the UK though.

OlennasWimple · 12/07/2017 00:13

I hate the term but love the concept Smile

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Eledamorena · 14/07/2020 12:13

It is a weird, outdated term that does feel kind of offensive, whatever it's original meaning. It is suggestive of women being hidden away at the end of pregnancy and post-delivery even if actually it was more about protecting them and letting them rest.

I'm in Thailand and the old-fashioned concept of confinement is definitely still a thing here. I was walking my newborn in her pram around our compound a week or two after she was born, as I did every day once I felt up to it, and one of my Thai neighbours rushed out to speak to me and was outright horrified!! Grin She seemed equally concerned that I was on my feet and WALKING and that my baby was OUTSIDE. They also have some very strange ideas about what you can and can't eat after birth and things like that. I took sandwiches and hobnobs to hospital with me and ate them in secret Wink

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