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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Transracial vs Transgender (new Rachel Dolezal interview)

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MamaPuffin · 20/04/2017 04:17

This interview has been shared around my (liberal feminist) Facebook feed like crazy today.

I thought it was a good article, but the thought I can't get out of my head is that if you replace 'white' with 'male' in many sections of the article, it sounds so much like radical feminism (which all the friends who praise this article roundly dismiss as 'bigoted'). I just can't get my head around the mental gymnastics required to not see the similarities, nor have I ever heard a good explanation of why transracialism is different to transgenderism.

"It is white supremacy that told her that any black people who questioned her were obviously uneducated and unmotivated to rise to her level of wokeness.... And if racial justice doesn't center her, she will redefine race itself in order to make that happen. It is a bit extreme, but it is in no way new for white people to take what they want from other cultures in the name of love and respect, while distorting or discarding the remainder of that culture for their comfort. "

I haven't the time or energy to have this conversation on Facebook today, but I needed to share somewhere.

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MamaPuffin · 21/04/2017 02:31

I thought the OP was about the similarities in argument rather than the morality of the situations.

Yep, exactly this, jellyfrizz

The argument of "it's just DIFFERENT" just isn't convincing to me.

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msrisotto · 21/04/2017 07:27

So, this thread is no exception. We've asked a hundred times and never been given an explanation as to why transgenderism is any different to transrace/transable/transage or even 'otherkin' (google it...). This is a farce.

Datun · 21/04/2017 07:36

Her account reads exactly like that of a trans woman. Saying she suffered the same discrimination because she was treated as black, from the moment she decided to be black.

Citing past misery, upbringing and experiences '...seems to have been inexplicably wronged by an extraordinary number of people'.

Even if you come at this from an angle that they are different (which I don't), the language used, the viewpoint, the attitude it's all identical. It's striking.

I'm not sure how you can assign morality to any of this. Whether it's RD or trans. It's a psychological issue (for those with sex dysphoria, not for the fetishists).

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