Men being raped by women

[Mamagin]

This has just come up on my Facebook feed.
broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/the-hidden-epidemic-of-men-who-are-raped-by-women?utm_source=vicefbanz&utm_campaign=global
Via insufferably intolerant science nerd - I'm a bit dumbstruck at the concept that females are violating men in such huge numbers. I can't seem to link to the Facebook page, but the comments appear to agree that there are many such women out there. WTF?

The article may or not be clickbait, but sexual assault by women clearly is a problem to what ever extent it exists. If you're a child and molested by your mother and no one believe you because of what are, lest we forget, completely sexist assumptions that women are nurturing and protective homemakers incapable of exhibiting the full gamut of human behaviours - then that's a big fucking problem. And to suggest that problem does not exist, to whatever extent, is wrong.

Underpinning these discussions is often the odd idea that addressing culturally mandated male sexual abuse (which is incontestably most of it) and addressing culturally un-mandated female sexual abuse are somehow in conflict.

And then you get people saying really odd things like:

The only way I can see this working is bringing male sexual violence against women and girls way way down first.

How would that play out in practice exactly? As the police or social services receive allegations of sexual assault would they have a male perps pile and a female perps pile and say 'right, we'll look at the male perpetrated cases first and get round round to the female perpetrated ones later'? Or would they just deal with every case as they receive it and with equal seriousness?

So prioritisation is a bit of a dumb premise for a debate at best, and at worst carries the suggestion that a child victim of a female abuser should be de-prioritised for ideological reasons. And if that ain't an abuse of feminism (and one that plays right into the hands of MRA scum) then I don't know what is.

In my opinion men can not be raped by women unless they are being penetrated with another object (i.e. a banana), as women do not have penises, to penetrate the male butthole.

Any research on female on male sexual assault would need to define what it meant by "sexual assault". I would argue that it should include things like bum groping and crotch grabbing, and I would expect the study to find a relatively high proportion of men who have been subjected to this. However, I would also then want to see similar research on male on female sexual assault using the same definitions, and I think the researchers would be blown away by the significant proportion of women (almost all, in fact) who have been subject to this behaviour at least once in their life.

Thee biggest issue is probably female child sex abuse. Incidences of female on adult male sexual assault (whether that's groping or penetration with an object) no doubt do exist, but I find it hard to imagine that being prevalent. People basically abuse people who are weaker than them. Men abuse women and children. Who the only people weaker than women (generally)? Children. If there is a big hidden issue, that is it.

I agree with user.

If there is a hidden epidemic then it's most likely to be child abuse by women.

You look at the type of abuse that is documented when men and women have the power to abuse and while women do perpetrate sexual abuse, generally they seem to go more for violence, torture and humiliation while men seem to go for that + sexual abuse. The only things I can think of where there is info and comparisons can be made are the historical abuses of nuns vs priests, and in girls schools/homes vs boys ones, and they seemed to generally follow that pattern.

I do think that a much larger number of men have been abused than is generally imagined, from child abuse. I think and hope that more can be done about this, the historical organised paedophila that has come out on recent years with both male and female victims, we need as a society to try and never let these things happen again.

I do think that sexual violence is a peculiarly male crime though, and that most boys and men who are victims, are victims of men.

Comparing sexual abuse of inmates by other inmates or male prison guards, doesn't seem like a helpful axis of comparison. I found the article too vague and confusing.

I'm positive that child abuse is perpetrated by females at a much higher rate than is reported and the coercion of teenage/young men is probably a more frequent than is visible in society.

I had an ex who was in care and abused by a female member of staff when he was 13. He did not frame it as abuse as he had been sexually abused by his step father previously and felt they were two different things. He was infatuated with the staff member and the sex was "wanted".

I doubt that there are many grown men who are coerced into forced penetration by a female. I'm sure it happens but no where near at the level women are raped by men.

It's an area that could do with a lot more research (as long as women and transwomen stats are not lumped in together).