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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Transwoman nominated for Best Female Solo Artist at Brits

38 replies

roseshippy · 16/01/2017 01:46

Anohni, formerly Antony of Antony & The Johnsons, has a previous nomination as best Male:

www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/brit-awards-2017-anohni-nominated-9622973

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roseshippy · 16/01/2017 22:40

apparently last year's Brits lacked diversity

www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/celebrity-news/brit-awards-praised-for-diversity-after-last-year-s-britssowhite-backlash-a3441711.html

So nominating men for women's awards is more diverse

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Twogoats · 16/01/2017 23:38

It's interesting that this is their first nomination given that they've been a musician for many years... Hmm

roseshippy · 16/01/2017 23:49

uh, he was nominated as a man previously

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Twogoats · 16/01/2017 23:56

Ah, apologies then! I will ask to get my post removed! Smile

OneWithTheForce · 17/01/2017 00:01

Do these people not know the definition of female? It really is very simple. A transwoman does not fulfil the criteria for best female anything. If they wish a transwoman to win the award they need to rename the award.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 17/01/2017 00:40

It's interesting that this is their first nomination given that they've been a musician for many years

What is your point? If you are trying to suggest this is some sort of "career move" for an otherwise undeserving artist you are miles off.

As Antony Hegarty she was nominated for and won the Mercury prize in 2005 for her second album I am a Bird Now. Under the Antony and the Johnsons name she released 4 studio albums and several live albums, at least 2 recorded with full orchestras. These may not have been huge sellers but they sold well enough and are hugely critically acclaimed. He /she has no difficulty selling out concert halls. Her work uses elements of performance art and the support acts when I saw her were contemporary dance artists, not bands. She is not really run of the mill Brits' award material.

The album which won the Mercury prize has a theme of exploring gender/ transgender issues. The CD cover is that famous photograph of Candy Darling on her death bed; the inner notes have copies of 2 letters dated 1966 by children taken from a medical journal on hermaphrodism and sex reassignment. She is definitely not just band wagon jumping.

The live album Cut the World; features a track called "Future Feminism", which consists of a speech in which Anohni (and I'm quoting) "disparages patriarchal religions and advocates for a shift towards feminine systems of governance as part of an effort to avert global ecological disaster"

I honestly don't know what you will make of this but give it a listen.

Twogoats · 17/01/2017 03:10

Ah, I've gone and done some research. I actually had heard of Antony and the Johnsons. I even have one of their albums. I just didn't recognize her under her new name.

HairyLittlePoet · 17/01/2017 12:19

I tried to listen. I got as far as him having a homeopathic relationship with the moon because he's mostly water and had to hit the eject button.

Bambambini · 18/01/2017 17:48

His new name is just how Glaswegians would say Anthony - but with a heavy glottal stop.

Bambambini · 18/01/2017 17:52

Also went on about how the feminisation of positions of power. Would like the Dalai Lama yo come back as a woman or for deities to be seen as female - a female Allah for example. This in mind, i'm surprised they sccepted the nomination in the female category.

TammySwansonxx · 19/01/2017 19:35

If there aren't enough artists for a trans category then at least have the same number of women and add the TW in so a woman isnt missing out on the nomination and the coverage.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 19/01/2017 21:37

His new name is just how Glaswegians would say Anthony - but with a heavy glottal stop

So it is!

user1471551792 · 20/01/2017 23:47

Yes, as it's Female Solo Artist it seems that there has been some kind of miracle.

Who knew a male could become a female?!

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