"gender can be really important to people in a positive way"

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Sorry for another trans one, but a former feminist (well, I guess she still thinks she's feminist...) posted this on fb.

Seriously? FFS. Daren't reply...

Dont tempt us...

Of course, the serious answer to that is that the way for men to be non threatening is for them to be civilized human beings, which the majority manage pretty well.

I think it's reasonable to expect that sex hormones affect sex displays, like strutting and wattles in roosters. Or territory marking in cats.
I'm less sure that sex hormones affect non-sex behaviours in any measurable way. Such as being good at spatial reasoning or maths.

Even with sex display type behaviours its not always clearcut - there are bitches who cock and hump, and entire male dogs who do neither. And I gather that castration is not considered to be an effective treatment for aggressive dogs.

Well in that case we could also dispense with the police service and the military. Getting people to behave in a 'civilised' fashion has been somewhat problematic throughout history...

I do love a bit of evopsych. It's all so factual

What ideas have you got for creating this utopia ?

Don't let the weight of history get in the way of the "everyone should just get along" argument. :)

I think it depends on when you castrate them dragon...I.e. before the hormones have affected brain development ? Not sure though.

"and entire male dogs who do neither. "

My old dog was like this, even encountering a female dog in season had no effect on him. Interestingly, when we got a younger male dog he behaved in the same way. Our vet explained it as him copying his older role model, the same as young humans do.

Don't be silly. Of course we need laws, and the means of enforcing them because we don't live in a Utopia where all people will naturally behave well.

To stick with our animal model for a moment, most dogs can be trained to be 'civilized', whether neutered or not. There is a balance between nature and nurture.

People are even more educable and (should) have the ability to be responsible for their actions. Having hormones normal for your sex is no excuse for bad behaviour.

People can control their behaviour obviously and societies can change norms.

Example might be how drink driving went from being not the end of the world to not socially acceptable.

Other examples are found whenever you look around the world and are shocked at a certain type of behaviour because it's not socially acceptable where you are - different levels of street harassment being "the norm" are a good example of this. Different societies have different places that they draw the line, and the line can be moved. This is why feminists bother with "awareness raising" in order to try and shift the line, and of course other groups do the same with a huge range of things they want changed to make society better.

You will always have some people who will be criminal / antisocial that's the way it is. But, you absolutely can reduce poor behaviour by the majority with a bit of work.

Sad thing is it seems that work like this can be very quick to unravel - see Trump/racism for example. So it seems that maybe there is always a stubborn undercurrent who hold antisocial views and are slower to change them. On the whole though, the world is getting better. I saw a very cheery infographic about it the other day

Men, as a class, pose a potential threat to women, as a class. It is overwhelmingly men who commit sex crime and most women have been victims to some extent.

However the majority of men do not commit sex, or any other, crime. It is therefore far from inevitable that men are in some way inevitably violent. As a feminist one of my goals was to marry a man who could never see me as less than equal and, when we had 2 DS.to raise them with feminist values. Can't say it's been a total success, but we're getting there.

To stick with our animal model for a moment, most dogs can be trained to be 'civilized', whether neutered or not. There is a balance between nature and nurture

I personally think most humans start off pretty violent. I've got a toddler at the moment and he can be a violent sod when he wants.

His cousins are interesting, the eldest is very soft natured, exceptional gentle, the youngest has some thug like tendencies. They have great parents so I'm sure they will grow into lovely none violent men.
If they were provoked as young men though my money's on the younger one throwing a punch first.

So yes I think nuture and nature together shape how people turn out.

It might have been interesting to hear the reply if OP had asked her friend what she meant.

I think there is actually more evidence if you look at history to support the theory that homo sapiens are pretty intolerant lot :)