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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Surrendered wife in BBC's 100 women

15 replies

Nickanickname · 04/12/2016 20:25

How does this count as inspirational Angry

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-37861459

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Xenophile · 04/12/2016 23:39

I'm not sure how relevant this year's 100 women is to actual women. A right old mixed bag of amazing women, not quite so amazing women and MtT.

PoochSmooch · 05/12/2016 06:13

What the...?!

Jesus Christ on a bendy bus. I think we can officially call it now - it is a new backlash and we are definitely moving backwards on women's rights. In what sense is this woman inspirational or doing anything inspiring for women? Genuine question.

Women often ask me if my approach is about dumbing myself down or becoming a submissive wife. I tell them I am a feminist. Surrendering is acknowledging you can't change or control anyone but yourself. That's empowering!

If I got to be in charge of the world, I would ban the word "empowering".

MissiAmphetamine · 05/12/2016 08:23

What the fuck. What the FUCK.
I feel vaguely ill now. How is this godawful "submissive wife" crap inspirational?
Disgusting.

Millionsmom · 05/12/2016 08:29

This was 'new' about 15 years ago.

I tried it, my DH asked me to please stop as it was too creepy. Then - as I was now a submissive wife - he ordered me to 😲

Daft idea, I thought it had died along with the Dodo.

PurpleDaisies · 05/12/2016 08:31

Are they supposed to be inspirational women? I thought the 100 women series was aiming to provoke debate.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 05/12/2016 09:18

The backlash is bigger than it's ever been. Wtf, BBC?

If they had framed it as 100 Unusual Women I could just about live with it but up to now it's been framed as inspirational. This isn't inspirational. This is a woman in a very dysfunctional and possibly emotionally abusive marriage.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 05/12/2016 09:20

Purpledaisies have you found an official statement saying it's about provoking debate? I haven't and am going by previous years and by how it is being received.

EnidColeslaw771 · 05/12/2016 09:23

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 05/12/2016 09:34

Oh, here it is. It was right in the middle of the article. Very poor show, BBC.

'BBC 100 Women names 100 influential and inspirational women around the world every year. We create documentaries, features and interviews about their lives, giving more space for stories that put women at the centre.'

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 05/12/2016 09:36

Enid, my dh was appalled by that.
People! Respect is like oxygen to people!

wizzywig · 05/12/2016 09:48

Havent watched the programme but is a surrendered wife a stepford wife? Yes my husband would love it. Id quite like to live with someone who does everything for me

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 05/12/2016 09:55

I think people who do it would say it isn't about being Stepford because you still get to have your own personality and you wouldn't necessarily have to be a SAHM, for instance, but it hinges on the husband having the final say.

scallopsrgreat · 05/12/2016 13:18

"I didn't know I'd been disrespectful to my husband or even that I'd been controlling and critical." She was probably right first time - she wasn't being disrespectful, controlling or critical. She was probably just wanting him to pull his weight and treat her like a full human being.

"Even if I'm not in the mood and he is, I often find myself getting in the mood just by being open to receiving pleasure." is sad and slightly creepy.

noeffingidea · 05/12/2016 13:20

Lots of men think they would like a 'surrendered wife' but they find it creepy in reality. It really comes across as passive aggressive.
It also dumps a whole load of fresh responsibility on the man. All of a sudden they've got to make all the decisions , be responsible for the finances, etc. It's like being the only responsible adult in the household. Not as much fun as you think it's going to be.

deydododatdodontdeydo · 05/12/2016 13:31

"Even if I'm not in the mood and he is, I often find myself getting in the mood just by being open to receiving pleasure." is sad and slightly creepy.

The preceding sentence is just as creepy:

"I've now found subtle ways of getting my husband in the mood for sex, which is far more effective than the days of begging, crying or yelling about wanting it."

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