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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Anyone like to help me with a politics exam?

38 replies

YouMakeMyDreams · 25/11/2016 07:18

After sitting through a politics lecture on feminism last week and muttering bollocks a lot I've decided the is feminism still needed. Discuss. Type of question is one of the two I'm going to tackle.
I want to make up some notes with bullet points to form my short essay around. Any suggestions for what I should tackle in it?

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DeviTheGaelet · 26/11/2016 13:18

Exactly mostly

Leila78 · 26/11/2016 14:48

Yeah, that was nothing to suggest that the OP was such a troll at that point was there? Once they say: 'what is it with you feminazis ganging up on the menz' then they get booted out. So what's the problem? As it was, this was someone who possibly wasn't a natural English speaker - maybe of migrant status - doing a course and seeking some company online. And you lot overreacted and failed to give her the benefit of the doubt. If she was an MRA cretin s/he would have gone on and on and on and on, as they invariably do.

And her lecture might have been shit; no end of stuff spouted by women calling themselves feminists is complete shit.

Some sisterly solidarity. 'Take no prisoners'? Get some perspective on yourself and stop justifying knee-jerk hostility.

Leila78 · 26/11/2016 14:50

The other thing you have done is look at her Talk history - which shows quite clearly she isn't a troll.

PoochSmooch · 27/11/2016 07:08

Leila, I don't search everyone's talk history before I respond to them. I just look at what they've posted and then I respond to that. Ironically, considering that you're scolding people for their tone, I also read a lot of hostility in your posts - like this: no end of stuff spouted by women calling themselves feminists is complete shit. You can disagree with how other women see their feminism without telling them they're full of shit.

Leila78 · 27/11/2016 07:53

Well, maybe you should check out the facts before jumping to a conclusion. The OP said nothing offensive.

And of course we should feel comfortable calling out 'feminists' who aren't actually feminists as full of shit. Okay, maybe it's best not to put it that vehemently - sorry - but surely we can assert our opposition to them in no uncertain terms?

I would say, for example, that pro-porn, pro-prostitution, pro-capitalist liberal 'feminists' are betraying feminism and having a malign affect on a generation of young women.Thank God for Banyard and Dines.

DeviTheGaelet · 27/11/2016 08:09

Talking of looking at talk history, it's interesting leila that you appear to have only joined to post on the feminist board about how mean we all are.

PoochSmooch · 27/11/2016 08:22

See, I'd agree with you on pro-porn, pro-prostitution feminism having a malign effect. But your posting tone is so confrontational that you got right up my nose before you even got the point where we agree. Which is pretty ironic on a thread that you joined to castigate other people for being too rude to bother engaging with!

PoochSmooch · 27/11/2016 08:25

I have now checked out some posting histories, and I feel very enlightened.

Leila78 · 27/11/2016 08:35

I have only been 'rude' to people who were being rude to someone else. It was unpleasant and I pointed that out. That's it. If you can't take it, don't dish it.

PoochSmooch · 27/11/2016 08:43

Au contraire, Leila. You're being quite rude to me, and I was helpful to the OP.

Leila78 · 27/11/2016 09:02

meh

PoochSmooch · 27/11/2016 11:43

Righty-ho. Message received.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 27/11/2016 14:56

Leila you had a valid about reading the posting history. I often do before replying.

There is a tendency on FWR to dismiss a poster who goes against the grain that they are a man. Saw one recently where a well established poster was accused of being a man - if the poster were a man, "he" had gone to considerable effort to build up a profile over years , including posts about leaving "his" abusive ex husband with "his" children. So yes, good to check first.

Clearly the OP here was bona fide but you are just being rude now.

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