Melania Trump

[Mrsglitterpants]

I might be alone in this, I hope not, but is anyone else disappointed by the slut shaming and vitriol aimed towards her?

Her husband is a disgusting reptile, that's a given. But in the last day or two I have seen her called a tramp, gold digger, whore, slag, dirty, and trash.

Today a 'feminist' page on FB - this one if you're interested www.facebook.com/feministnews.us/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE
published a meme about her basically laughing at how thick she supposedly is. What was particularly horrible were the comments underneath from women, all who you would assume to be feminists as they follow the page. Vile comments including 'I hope they wiped down the chair she sat on in the white house' and 'when do they install the stripper pole'.

I understand that feminism doesn't mean that all women are above reproach but really? We have a man in the White House who hates women, direct your hatred at him!

And tbh as she's married to DT I suspect her life isn't a picnic, he is a nasty bully.

[derxa]

Caroline Aherne was publically a victim of DV Well Hooky claimed it was the other way round.

[LassWiTheDelicateAir]

I didn't say she should stay with him. My point is she was sneering at Debbie McGee for her choice of husband yet Debbie McGee seems to have made far the better choice.

[growapear]

I judge all trophy wives.

Good, because it's been my experience that most feminists are reluctant to criticise women full stop, even those who blatantly throw themselves at w*nkers who happen to have a lot of money. I see the whole trophy wife/WAG thing as one of the worst things about our society.

[IYonicAllAndIYonicNow]

Tbh lass, I took that as a fairly good natured joke from aherne rather than a sneer. IIRC, McGee laughed fairly hard at it at the time!

[IYonicAllAndIYonicNow]

Blatantly throw themselves, pear?

[LassWiTheDelicateAir]

I thought the Aherne comment was nasty and uncalled for and going for a cheap laugh. Debbie McGee took it in good part and spoke well of Aherne on her death but that's to her credit.

[Elendon]

My reading of the Aherne comment was that McGee was not in the least bit offended. She, McGee, knew exactly that there was going to be a bit of ribbing on the show. Also Aherne did say that McGee was one of the nicest persons she had interviewed.

Anyhow, Melania is not going to move into the White House because she wants her son to stay at his school, presumably in New York. Which I think is a great move.

[IYonicAllAndIYonicNow]

IIRC, the Obamas had the same discussion about their girls finishing a school year in Chicago.

[IYonicAllAndIYonicNow]

Well, maybe mcgee was seething internally for years, but i will assume she knows her own mind and take her reaction as sincere. Sounds like aherne and she got on well and aherne would have apologised if mcgee felt one was necessary.

My take on mcgee and Daniels is: A couple who met at work, like many others!

[IYonicAllAndIYonicNow]

And I find the term trophy wife very sexist.

We are all attracted to a mixture of characteristics. Plenty of (rightful) criticism on here for cocklodgers and partners who need nannying through life.

One of the strengths of my relationship is that we take joint responsibility for earnings and for childcare. Others shape things differently.

Plenty of "WAGS" make money in their own right, through modelling, acting, singing. Louise Redknapp and Victoria Beckham spring to mind.

Melanie Trump was a model, not sure how "big league" but many models make a good living. As it's been reported that Trump would have been richer if he'd stuck his dad's money in tracker funds rather than his businesses, she may not even have been a worse "business" than him when she modelled.

[growapear]

Well Yonic I believe there is an element to our culture where women try and "trade up" e.g. by marrying a much richer man, There are of course good reasons for this beyond the lifestyle, however I note that the whole phenomenon is not true in reverse. Perhaps this is a throw back to a more patriarchal culture.

e.g. there was a program on last weekend about some bunch of utter tossers who drive super cars around knightsbridge, flaunting their wealth. Girls go along to this and write their phone numbers in lipstick on the cars, I cannot imagine this happening in reverse (not just because of the use of lipstick). Can you ? I guess you would probably say it is a symptom of our society that women can use their "sexual capital" in a way that men cannot or do not in order to "bag" a rich partner. I see "trophy wives" as part of this culture and I can't stand it.

[LassWiTheDelicateAir]

Would you like to set a scale of how much difference in income is a genuine relationship and which is a trophy wife?

I agree with Yonic it is very sexist.

[RufusTheSpartacusReindeer]

"Where women try and 'trade up'"



I agree with yonic and i am interested in a reply to lass question, it would be interesting to see it quantified

Surely it shows that there are many more fuck off rich men to fuck off rich women...pay gap?

[growapear]

Would you like to set a scale of how much difference in income is a genuine relationship and which is a trophy wife?

Ok, let me try saying it a different way, the way some women behave around rich men (and to some extent celebrities/boy bands/famous sports men) etc does not have a parallel in the way men conduct themselves around women.

I'm not about to get into a debate about whether this phenomenon exists or not, it seems to me self evident that it does.

What I'm wondering is whether "it's all mens fault" as usual, or whether women also share the blame in entrenching these stereotypes.

[RufusTheSpartacusReindeer]

grow

Not having a pop

You said "the way some women behave around rich men...the way men conduct themselves around women"

Missing word being rich...might that be it? i am sure in the cases of rich women they have their 'hangers on'

[growapear]

rufus

Thanks - yes I meant the way men conduct themselves around rich/famous women.

[Elendon]

Most certainly there are more rich men than rich women. It is undeniably stupid to think otherwise. And if anyone tries to argue otherwise, then they are undeniably stupid.

[RufusTheSpartacusReindeer]

grow

I believe there are a minority of women who may act like that

I also believe that there are a minority of men who act like that as well...its just there are so many rich men compared to rich women

When i see some of the young men on someone like Madonnas arm or back in the day with some gay male stars...i think men are the same, they just dont get the same chances

[LassWiTheDelicateAir]

I believe there are a minority of women who may act like that

A tiny minority and as per the examples on here many of the women have careers/ wealth in their own right and end up having happy and enduring marriages.

If there really are gold diggers out there they are a pretty inconsequential issue. I'd far rather just assume they are attracted to their partners for the myriad of reasons we all have than churn out misogynistic comments like "trophy wife"

[RufusTheSpartacusReindeer]

Absolutely lass

Teeny tiny

[growapear]

To my knowledge I am unaware that women flaunt wealth in order to attract men, men do flaunt wealth because they know it attracts women. I'm wondering why this is - it is not because there are more rich men than there are rich women.

[RufusTheSpartacusReindeer]

Oh good lord

It attracts some women...some

And some men flaunt their weath to get women and some men flaunt it to really piss other men off, some of them might do it because they love it

I love the word some

Some men are plonkers some men are not

Some women are plonkers some women are not

Rich kids of instragram...some rich kids flaunting their wealth...apparently

Although its probably fairer to say their parents wealth

[growapear]

NAWALT

Can you find the equivalent of the young women writing their mobile numbers in lipstick on a "supercar" ? Would you accept that more women deliberately try to "bag" a rich partner than men ?

[growapear]

Part of the issue for me is that when wankstains like CE says "he could have any women he wanted", whereas not literally true, there would, I have no real doubt, been a line of women trying to attract his and his team mates attention when he went out - this is what happens to footballers, especially if they are well known, I've seen it first hand. I honestly do not understand why, and assumed it was all about money. Men for example to not strut about in tight trousers trying to catch Jessica Ennis's eye.

[RufusTheSpartacusReindeer]

NAWALT

Trouble is the only evidence i have for the 'fact' that more women try and bag a rich man is the daily mail, my dad, you and various men who appear to be very jealous (not including you or my dad in that group)

It seems to be "man he is an ugly fucker she must be after his money" rather than any other possible explanation

I do see what you are saying about Ched but

A) neither you nor i know what sort of attention Jesica Ennis gets in a club

B) she is married and married women are 'taken'

I think there is a very, very small minority of women that choose their partners based on money ....teeny tiny minority

So small that i dont even think its a thing