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Pakistan religious leader thinks "light beating" is a good way to get your wife to do as she's told

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Felascloak · 17/06/2016 17:05

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/pakistani-religious-leader-defends-telling-men-it-is-acceptable-to-beat-their-wives-lightly-for-a7085136.html

Sometimes I get so focussed on feminism in the UK I forget how utterly shit it is in other parts of the world. Wives have "responsibilities" that need monitoring by their husband. Including not dressing how the husband wants or refusing sex.
Ugh.

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Janey50 · 19/06/2016 16:49

Beating your wife/partner is wrong full stop. If my partner thought he would try to beat me,even lightly,he would find himself and his belongings outside the front door PDQ.

originalmavis · 19/06/2016 18:34

I wonder where they stand on 'light poisining' of dear wife beater by the wife?

As long as they tolerate the system of Neanderthal self appointed all makle village elders dishing out the law

originalmavis · 19/06/2016 18:35

Flipping phone....
Dishing out the law which includes revenge gang rape of a third party, then there will be no safety for women.

Amaia10 · 19/06/2016 18:43

KindDogs - I agree, the TakeninHand movement may well appeal to a certain type of fundamentalist Christian. It sounds all fairly similar to the surrendered wives movement (founded by a woman in the U.S.). Takes all kinds, I guess! I think some people may initially get off on this kind of thing, but do wonder how long it can actually last.

Of course there's always the "Obedient Wives Club" founded in Malaysia which now claims to have tens of thousands of members worldwide - in which husbands can expect their wives (up to 4 of them) to be totally obedient, act as "top class prostitutes" in the bedroom and naturally beat them as they see fit.

In my twenties I spent 18 months teaching English in a remote village in The Northwest Frontier Province in Pakistan. It's one of the most scenically beautiful places I have ever been - unfortunately women are not visible outside of the house. I ended up having to pretend I was married to a Spanish man who was there to look for a kind of yeti and was staying in the same compound as us - just to be able to get out and about! Tbh most of the men in the village had never seen a woman outside of their own family, so they had no idea how to react to an unknown woman in the street. In the 18 months I spent in Northern Pakistan I narrowly escaped being raped by a man who jumped through the roof into a shower cubicle I was in and there were 2 other serious incidents. It was the small day to day things too, like bus drivers who advised me to buy two seats on the bus so you can be more sure of not getting groped. This was 20 years ago now, but not sure if things will have got any better.

KindDogsTail · 20/06/2016 00:14

Amaia10
Your experiences when you were there were extraordinary. I am so glad you were just about all right. It was lucky you were able to be Mrs Yeti - Searcher to keep yourself reasonably out of bounds of their nasty assumptions.

Did you see Zorba the Greek where they were all going berserk about a woman once she was a widow as they all wanted to get her for themselves, then they stoned her?

It does not seem to have got better at all.

I had heard of the Surrendered wives but not the Obedient ones in Malaysia.

BarbarianMum · 20/06/2016 11:39

Well considering it's commonplace to burn people, chuck acid on and rape women, I think a light beating is actually pretty moderate Sad

VestalVirgin · 20/06/2016 12:00

I wonder where they stand on 'light poisining' of dear wife beater by the wife?

Probably the same as the "20 minutes of action" rape apologist would react to a "1 second of action" murder defense. (If a man cannot be convicted of rape because he only raped the woman for 20 minutes, then I shouldn't be convicted of murder for shoothing him. I mean, that takes 2 seconds, tops!)
Like, they would invent a reason why this is totally different.

originalmavis · 20/06/2016 15:32

I despair at the world I really do.

The more I read/see the more I think half of the world's population is pure batshit and wonder if that's how the rule of humans in earth will end. Not a nice meteor like the Dinosaurs. Bloody stupid men and their willies (let's face it, it all boils down to men and their willies).

God seriously needs to do a recall on some of his creations...

Felascloak · 20/06/2016 16:42

I'm sure it will mavis. I try not to think about it too much.

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Amaia10 · 20/06/2016 16:53

Thanks Kindogstail.

As far as I can see all religion is written by men for the purposes of men. I've never really been able to get past that.

When DS was a commando in Afghanistan his unit's role was to weed out the Taliban and/ or their weapons from their mountain tunnels and other strongholds. The devastation and sheer horror in that country is too much to describe here really, but it's the women and children who suffered most. Everywhere they were endlaved, raped or used as human shields. I would not describe the Taliban as Muslims or even humans, but in the midst of all this, DS read the Koran to see if it could make sense of it all. It didn't and never will.

Tattieboggle · 20/06/2016 16:57

Where my family are in the ME, if a husband hit his wife she would most likely lamp him back, call her mum, his mum and the whole family would like in and have a go at him. Culturally, it is not acceptable and God help you if you raised a hand to a woman or elderly person

Do we live in the same place? But that aside women here can also access the legal system where clear laws against this kind of thing are in place.

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