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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Hello darlin'

22 replies

WaitrosePigeon · 30/01/2016 09:12

Paying for petrol yesterday evening. Greeted with Hello darlin'. I know it's probably innocent from their stance but I cannot stand it.

I go to this petrol station regularly so I rather not cause a fuss but it's just so patronising, isn't it?

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0phelia · 30/01/2016 10:51

It's slighly better than "Smile darling".

But it's a bit presumptuous, if this person doesn't know you. One calls one's loving partner 'darling' not a random stranger.

Did they perhaps think that they know you?

partialderivative · 01/02/2016 18:07

How about "Morning sunshine!" is that patronising?

I use that quite a bit.

PalmerViolet · 01/02/2016 19:43

Yes.

DrSeussRevived · 01/02/2016 19:54

Partial, do you use that in class to your students? If so, I'm guessing that you are going for patronising, right?

Anniegetyourgun · 01/02/2016 20:12

I don't mind "hello darlin' " as long as it's in the same tone of voice as "hello mate" used to a male customer. Strictly speaking I am not, and never would be, their darling but then again the guy behind me probably isn't their mate either. It just means "I recognise you, female/male person". There are class and regional connotations. I think it's done better in those places where everyone is "love" regardless of age, sex or any other distinguishing feature - but again there's a lot in the tone.

Pannn · 01/02/2016 20:13

I only ever hear"hello darlin'" in a cockney accent.

I usually find a nice straight fwd "hello" works well.

OhShutUpThomas · 01/02/2016 20:15

I don't have a problem with it. All the people I know of who would say it also say 'hello mate' or 'alright pal' to men.

It's just friendly to a lot of people.

OhShutUpThomas · 01/02/2016 20:15

And same as lots of women I know who call everyone 'love' or 'pet,' male and female.

Pannn · 01/02/2016 20:16

Except if I'm addressing a bunch of students - then it's "hello boys and girls" which is deeply patronising but in an endearing way. I like to think.Smile

As a bloke though the "mate" from strangers grates a bit. I'd imagine I'd find 'darlin' a bit off, but then I could be being a bit stuffy.

candykane25 · 01/02/2016 20:17

I say that to male and females but only the ones I know!
In my northern town though, it's common to be address as love by everybody, regardless of gender. It just means "person". Hello Person. A longer form of saying hello.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 01/02/2016 22:31

Agree with Annie. It's very much the tone that is important.

Headmelt · 01/02/2016 22:39

Awww! I thought you were quoting Conway Twitty Grin who is a total legend

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 01/02/2016 23:16
Headmelt · 02/02/2016 01:00

Thanks Lass Grin

OhShutUpThomas · 02/02/2016 08:05

Conway Shock

That is one of my favourite songs EVER! Have you heard 'I see the want to in your eyes'?

Headmelt · 02/02/2016 10:24

OhShut, Conway is classic. I'm sure he wrecked many a relationship in his day. What woman could resist his charm! Even the engaged and married ladies weren't off limits to him Grin

iamEarthymama · 02/02/2016 10:41

That's half an hour of my life I won't get back, watching Conway Twitty on YouTube.Smile

I am old enough to remember men dressed like that chatting me, as a young teen, up! And it was just normal in society.

I am guilty of adding a darling or a lovely, to my greetings to helpful strangers, it's the way we talk here. As someone says, it means Person.

Though the best is when using public transport.

I always imagine new bus drivers in the Valleys feeling inwardly proud as their passengers get off and on the bus with a "Thanks, Drive" Wink

They know they are fully fledged and can start on part 2 of their course; "how to be a grumpy bugger".

LurcioAgain · 02/02/2016 10:46

Annie's absolutely right - it depends on context, tone of voice and regional variation.

When living in Leeds, I saw a 15 stone, 50 year old, tattooed male brickie addressed with the phrase "where to, love?" by a 50 year old male bus driver. Similarly when I'm in London, I don't find "Hello darling" delivered in the same tone of voice "hello mate" offensive. Now I live in the south west, I have to admit it's taken quite a bit of getting used to being addressed "hello lover!" but again, weirdly, down here that's a sex-neutral form of address!

On the other hand, if someone in a workplace meeting said "Can you take the minutes, darling?" I'd be apoplectic! Because in that context, delivered by a colleague, it could be nothing other than a deliberate attempt to patronise and belittle me. (I hasten to add I cannot in a million years imagine any of my colleagues doing that.)

MrNoseybonk · 03/02/2016 10:36

Round here "darling" isn't that common, but shopkeepers, bus drivers, etc. will often call people "love".
I find it tends to be men will call women love, women will call men love, but I know in other areas, men will call men love (as above).

caitlinohara · 03/02/2016 11:15

Lurcio I am from Leeds and it used to be v common for men to call other men "love" in the same way as "mate". I have always found it v cute.

My postman managed to address me as "darling", "love", "sweetie" and "honey" in the short time he delivered a parcel to me yesterday, DESPITE MY ACTUAL NAME BEING ON THE PARCEL. Maybe he just really likes me... Hmm

CwtchMeQuick · 03/02/2016 12:31

Round here it's 'alroooiiiiitttt darrrrrrlin' Grin
I don't object to it.
I agree in a professional context I'd flip. But general day to day it's fine imo. It's used the same way as mate is in our area. Ditto sweetheart and love.

grimbletart · 03/02/2016 14:16

You'd never speak to anyone around my parts if you didn't respond to "love". In a personal, village, day to day context I'm fine with it.

In business, no, never.

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