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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Utterly appalled by this video--boy street harasses, assaults girl

17 replies

WombOfOnesOwn · 27/10/2015 18:03

www.dailylife.com.au/news-and-views/dl-opinion/what-this-video-show-us-about-how-boys-are-taught-to-handle-rejection-20151025-gki37r.html

How awful is this? And the adult in the video makes no motion to restrain the boy or even help the poor hurt girl. What the hell is wrong with people?!

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almondpudding · 27/10/2015 18:21

Should we watch videos like that?

Has the victim consented to that video being put up on the internet?

I agree with you about it being awful that they all just stood around and watched.

SurlyCue · 27/10/2015 18:29

Ok. I may be wrong but that video looks like a set up. He was already setting up to throw the ball before she said "fuck you". However it does look like he and she werent actually expecting the ball to make contact. Possibly only set up on his end, maybe she didnt know. But the video does seem staged to an extent. Not sure for what purpose. Perhaps entirely to humiliate the girl. Maybe he had pulled that trick before and knew it wound the girls up.

INeedAChangeSoon · 27/10/2015 20:01

I saw that vid on an Australian site yesterday, it's awful and I hope the girl wasn't badly hurt.

He may have aimed at the first girl who said fuck you, but because of speed hit the second. Or he may have deliberately aimed ahead of the second bike knowing to make allowance for the speed. I don't think it was set up and the girl sounded in a lot of pain.

He seems to have acted in anger because they didn't take kindly to his heckling, wether he intended to cause serious harm or not, he intended for that ball to hit one of them, why throw it at them otherwise?

There's been some disgusting comments about the girl, she should have been polite, she should have been happy a boy wants to talk to her. I hope she's ok and I hope someone has a word with that boy about it's inappropriate to react with violence when a girl says no, politely or otherwise. If it it was an adult holding the camera they should be ashamed of themselves too for not going over and seeing if she's ok.

almondpudding · 27/10/2015 20:53

Here's a similar vidoe featuring adults, released by the police:

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/man-caught-on-camera-pushing-woman-off-bike-during-rush-hour-traffic-in-whitechapel-10470515.html

datop · 28/10/2015 07:00

"boy street harasses,"

I watched the video- here's what happens:

boy "hey ladies"

girl "fu*k you"

ok... so please remind me who is harrassing who again?

datop · 28/10/2015 07:03

It reminds me of that video where a woman walked for 10 hours around a specific part of Manhattan and got 5 mins worth of video where guys were saying good morning to her. And then feminists tried to use it as "evidence" of street harassment.

Even if cheesey chat-up lines and good-mornings were classed as "harassment", that video also tells us the woman was walking around for approx 9 hours and 55 minutes with noone paying any attention to her!

datop · 28/10/2015 07:06

Back to the video on topic, I like how the boy throws the ball in front of the rude girl instead of straight at her as he is anticipating the speed and direction she is moving and the speed of the ball. I reckon he'll be good at maths.

And one of you asked why didn't the adult present go over and see if the girl was ok? Well the adult is a male, and I imagine he would be hesitant to approach a young girl out of fear of being accused of something. Maybe he went to go fetch an adult woman to check if the girl was ok?

hesterton · 28/10/2015 07:13

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datop · 28/10/2015 07:14

And that adult video, it does appear the woman was being provocative. Instead of putting her finger up at people maybe she should just mind her own business.

Perhaps a nice friendly "good morning" would be better appreciated than a middle finger? Oh woops I forgot, saying "good morning" to someone is now classed as "street harassment"!

I must remember not to greet anyone with "good morning" or "hello" between now and lunch. I don't want anyone to feel harassed!

datop · 28/10/2015 07:15

btw where I stay there are some old grannies who say good morning to me when I pass them. Should I report them for harassment?

That's what I was thinking hester, someone else said it was an adult but I was thinking just a slighter older fat boy.

hesterton · 28/10/2015 08:15

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WombOfOnesOwn · 28/10/2015 16:58

"Hi ladies" is the single most common start to street harassment I've ever personally experienced. A young girl knowing right away "this isn't 'flirtatious,' it's gross and entitled behavior" responded in the way I'd encourage her to as a mother--women should be allowed to tell men to fuck off with their advances. Rudeness as a response to harassment isn't the same as initiating harassment.

I suspect if you don't think a "hiiiii ladies" from across the street is harassment, you haven't been subjected to much unwanted male attention. It's one of the primary opening gambits, and responding with anything but a curt/rude dismissal is often taken as an opening to chase after you, keep talking in an unwanted way to you, and so on.

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DraenorQueen · 28/10/2015 17:07

"Hi ladies" is the single most common start to street harassment I've ever personally experienced."

This. Absolutely this. Whether it's a chugger, pisshead or random bloke, an unwelcome "hi ladies" in the street/pub/anywhere just makes your stomach sink. And then, predictably when you reject the advance, either with a firm "no thanks" or a "fuck off" or any other variant, you're immediately fair game for the insults. "Wasn't talking to you anyway, fat cow." "Stuck up bitch" etc.

BuffytheScaryFeministBOO · 28/10/2015 18:11

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MoriartyIsMyAngel · 28/10/2015 18:17

so please remind me who is harrassing who again?

The person who initiated contact with a stranger? The person who then assaulted that stranger?

Women hear approaches from random men all the bloody time. Ignoring rarely works, it just sets the abuse off quicker. Being on a bike, maybe she felt she was relatively safe speaking her mind at a creep for once, but sadly she wasn't. I'm sure she'll be much more timid in future. But do we think her harasser will think twice about bothering other women in future? Probably not. Not with all the internet's woman haters cheering him on.

hedgehogsdontbite · 28/10/2015 18:37

Horrifying video. I knew someone who was killed going over the handlebars like that. I hope he gets prosecuted.

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