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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Why to I make less than my male co-stars? - Jennifer Lawrence (article)

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shovetheholly · 14/10/2015 09:53

When Lena first brought up the idea of Lenny to me, I was excited. Excited to speak to Lena, who I think is a genius, and excited to start thinking about what to complain about (that’s not what she pitched me, it’s just what I’m gonna do). When it comes to the subject of feminism, I’ve remained ever-so-slightly quiet. I don’t like joining conversations that feel like they’re “trending.” I’m even the asshole who didn’t do anything about the ice-bucket challenge — which was saving lives — because it started to feel more like a “trend” than a cause. I should have written a check, but I fucking forgot, okay? I’m not perfect. But with a lot of talk comes change, so I want to be honest and open and, fingers crossed, not piss anyone off.

It’s hard for me to speak about my experience as a working woman because I can safely say my problems aren’t exactly relatable. When the Sony hack happened and I found out how much less I was being paid than the lucky people with dicks, I didn’t get mad at Sony. I got mad at myself. I failed as a negotiator because I gave up early. I didn’t want to keep fighting over millions of dollars that, frankly, due to two franchises, I don’t need. (I told you it wasn’t relatable, don’t hate me).

But if I’m honest with myself, I would be lying if I didn’t say there was an element of wanting to be liked that influenced my decision to close the deal without a real fight. I didn’t want to seem “difficult” or “spoiled.” At the time, that seemed like a fine idea, until I saw the payroll on the Internet and realized every man I was working with definitely didn’t worry about being “difficult” or “spoiled.” This could be a young-person thing. It could be a personality thing. I’m sure it’s both. But this is an element of my personality that I’ve been working against for years, and based on the statistics, I don’t think I’m the only woman with this issue. Are we socially conditioned to behave this way? We’ve only been able to vote for what, 90 years? I’m seriously asking — my phone is on the counter and I’m on the couch, so a calculator is obviously out of the question. Could there still be a lingering habit of trying to express our opinions in a certain way that doesn’t “offend” or “scare” men?

A few weeks ago at work, I spoke my mind and gave my opinion in a clear and no-bullshit way; no aggression, just blunt. The man I was working with (actually, he was working for me) said, “Whoa! We’re all on the same team here!” As if I was yelling at him. I was so shocked because nothing that I said was personal, offensive, or, to be honest, wrong. All I hear and see all day are men speaking their opinions, and I give mine in the same exact manner, and you would have thought I had said something offensive.

I’m over trying to find the “adorable” way to state my opinion and still be likable! Fuck that. I don’t think I’ve ever worked for a man in charge who spent time contemplating what angle he should use to have his voice heard. It’s just heard. Jeremy Renner, Christian Bale, and Bradley Cooper all fought and succeeded in negotiating powerful deals for themselves. If anything, I’m sure they were commended for being fierce and tactical, while I was busy worrying about coming across as a brat and not getting my fair share. Again, this might have NOTHING to do with my vagina, but I wasn’t completely wrong when another leaked Sony email revealed a producer referring to a fellow lead actress in a negotiation as a “spoiled brat.” For some reason, I just can’t picture someone saying that about a man.

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shovetheholly · 14/10/2015 09:54

Posting because this dovetails with several discussions currently on the board - the one about 'anger' in particular.

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slightlyglitterpaned · 14/10/2015 12:20

It's probably part of the reason for the extreme skew towards youth in Hollywood actresses - as they get older and more confident they're more likely to negotiate.

hellBellsJingleBalls · 15/10/2015 12:16

Have you got a link to the article? Is this Jennifer Lawrence who stars in the Hunger Games?

shovetheholly · 15/10/2015 12:45

Yes it is. Writing for Lena Dunham's newsletter

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hellBellsJingleBalls · 15/10/2015 12:52

Thanks. I loved the Hunger Games books and it's great to know the Katniss actress is so enlightened and articulate.

diggerdigsdogs · 16/10/2015 06:04

Thanks for posting. Good article.

noblegiraffe · 24/10/2015 13:58

That's really interesting, I expect her experience of shocking a man by simply expressing an opinion clearly is one shared by most women, even if they don't earn millions of dollars.

I'm now thinking of all the demanding divas you hear about (e.g. Mariah Carey) and wondering what the male equivalent is?

howtorebuild · 24/10/2015 14:35

I hope we don't see less of her now as a result.

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