Men invented the car and the submarine

[feministfran]

But not all men!!!

A woman invented the windscreen wiper- just one woman not all women!!!

How do you mean?

Aren't they both things made of lots of other things invented by lots of people? Do you mean the internal combustion engine when you say car for eg? There were steam cars I think - are you including those?

I don't know much about submarine invention I must admit!

"In 1845, Sarah Mather received a patent for the invention of a submarine telescope and lamp. This was a remarkable device that permitted sea-going vessels to survey the depths of the ocean."

I did not know that!

great thread OP got me googling now!

It reminds me of that James brown song where he basically says men invented everything, but it's quite nice having women and girls around

YY women are important for being nice to look at, and things related to reproduction.

If by some weird aberration they do invent something or discover something, despite being denied an education / excluded from professional bodies / whatever it might be, then all you need to do is make sure a man steals it, or ignore her in all the history books. Voila!

Fran has been here an hour and had more posts deleted than I have in 5 years. Coincidence? That's Joe-incidence with a C.

It's still interesting to find out about people like Sarah Mather though!

Totally right.

Men invented most things since the industrial revolution. They have also been the best composers, musicians, artists, economists, politicians,scientists, engineers, sculptors , church leaders ... the list goes on.

What a crazy coincidence.

And yet, without women, there would be no men. Maybe we should set a moratorium on making more for say 100 years or so.

See how we get on, like

madge - do you have sons?

what difference would that make?

I haven't called for some kind of biblical cull of men, just let's not make any more for a bit

A kind of reproductive lysistrata if you will

What of it

Men might have invented the car and part of the submarine. However, a woman discovered the technology which allows you to sit and whine on a forum.

Without women, you'd still be sat in your bedroom, picking your spots and hoping your mum had made a tea you liked, completely unable to demonstrate to several other women at once just what a complete social inadequate you are.

Hurray for women.

It's amazing what women can do when they get access to education.

And are listened to.

And don't have their work stolen by men.

*Without women, you'd still be sat in your bedroom, picking your spots and hoping your mum had made a tea you liked, completely unable to demonstrate to several other women at once just what a complete social inadequate you are.
*

How sexist.

How sexist.

Really? In what way? Girls don't use computers maybe? Have spots? Sit in their bedrooms? Hope they will enjoy the tea their mum has made? Are never social inadequates?

Quite a few, rather sexist assumptions you've made about boys there in that case, don't you think goblin? Sorry you're unable to see past your prejudices there.

Men invented most things since the industrial revolution. They have also been the best composers, musicians, artists, economists, politicians,scientists, engineers, sculptors , church leaders biscuit... the list goes on."

Is this a wind up or do I really need to point out that men were only the best because women were simply not allowed to play? And yet, still, despite the entirety of society being engineered to keep them down, women still do pop up in all these areas throughout history.

How many Jeffreys are we going to have to get through exactly?

Looks like several. Unfortunately.

No not a wind up lightning- it's simply a true and very sad fact.

Why do you find it sad, goblin?

I find it sad to think of the lost music, art, inventions etc that we have never experienced because the women who would have made them were confined by society's view of their role as women.

Exactly florafox.

Just imagine a world which could have been enriched by the talents of the other 50% of society. A far more bountiful place.

If people actually knew the restrictions, legal and social, placed on women in the past what would surprise them is that any women at all made it into the history books.

They weren't even allowed into public libraries FGS. And whilst men were busy networking and discussing science and politics in coffee houses the only women allowed in those places were prostitutes.

The problem is we don't teach this in school because it's too unsavoury but it allows people to believe it's because women were incapable rather than the actual truth.

I like that women who have made discoveries in the past are now being given airtime in eg museums, on the BBC there is a lot, on facebook I see stuff. Ada Lovelace, Mary Anning, what Hedy Lamarr got up to when she wasn't busy being a beautiful film star, and etc, these things were not so widely known about even a few decades ago.

There is and has been an effort to write the contributions women made back into the history books, and that is good.

A woman pope?