Help me with this discussion over Women's Equality Party

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I shared the news article yesterday about Sandi Toksvig on my fb wall. Lots of shares and positive comments from female friends. Then a comment from a male acquaintance. Basic summary being that it is discrimination to call it women, the name is off putting (possibly true) and then pointing out that men suffer discrimination too.

This was responded to with pointing out that men have superiority in our society etc. That doesn't mean all men are treated well.

A second male friend today saying that it is all wrong, pay gap is a myth, women have just as much opportunity, his wife pitches in that if you choose to have kids then you should expect to take a hit on your career and m en could give up work if they wanted to

Argh. I'm getting really riled, but I can't make them see. He points out high male suicide rate, homelessness.

I'm losing will to argue, but know he will think that means I think he is right

I wouldn't vote for any party that advocates for a "man tax"

Probably not.

That's it, the party is sunk before it even starts. Because the leader of a feminist party in Sweden put forward an unpopular radical idea a decade ago, all feminist parties everywhere will be accused of the same for ever after, and be derailed into a side turning by trying to prove they're not instead of getting on with real policies. It's the straw man to end all straw, er, persons of unspecified gender.

No doubt there'll be another one along shortly.