has anyone seen this video?

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This is about rape.

two things for posting this. I thought it would make an interesting discussion, it's an interesting point.

Secondly, I found this on a social media site. a male friend posted it, he and his male friends are ranting over it. I posted before I'd watched it that from what they said it's stretching the definition (I now think that it's making a particular point and not trying to stretch the definition) but that I feel people should be allowed to label their own experiences.

I was then told that if someone called me a slut I couldn't say it was rape.

I then listed the times I've been raped because all of them people would argue are not rape. I stopped fighting when it was inevitable, certain situations in a relationship that I haven't gone into detail of, birth rape, a professional who spoke to me in a way that traumatised me like rape and a man who couldn't keep it up so rammed my throat until I was sick twice instead. guess what, I've not been raped!

I get the impression that they're trying to be feminist but they're failing spectacularly! The one who's page it is, is CD/little and the site is one that people labeling their own experiences should be common knowledge. I'm rather disappointed, feeling a bit naive to expect better of the site I love so much.

I do like, as much as you can "like", the term birth rape because having experienced it rape is exactly what it feels like. I appreciate not everyone who has had consent violated in birth will feel like that. tying a woman down and forcing into her vagina whilst she's trying to stop it, using the power that person has over her vagina to punish her, does it matter if that's done by a man with his penis or a doctor with their hands and instruments? The result is the same, the intention is the same, what's different is how seriously she's taken and often the damage is worse.

Most of what I've been through is a long time ago and been dealt with, counselling where needed. I've always been matter of fact about it. The only time I went to the police I asked if she thought I was lying as I was matter of fact, joking with her etc. She didn't of course.

I don't think it needs a different term. The one downside though but it's with any negativity around birth is that people downplay it because it's birth. I had PTSD from a different birth but I shouldn't because they were doing their job, they saved the baby, healthy baby is all that matters... Unless that idea that we shouldn't be negative about our birth experiences is vanquished birth rape won't be taken seriously. I think if people accept that birth can be horrific and obstetric staff can punish and assault mothers the term will have the punch it should have.

what did you think of the video? The thread has now been deleted, as the husband of another woman arguing posted he was banning her replying again as she was triggering. The OP hasn't let it lie though with sneaky comments all over the place about people not liking his opinion. Seems more than trying to be a feminist he is trying to defend the men who ate falsely accused. I worked out in another thread that for 1000 rapes:
100 were reported
10 got to court
8 were convicted
2 men were falsely accused.