hypocrital men.. one rule for them..

[CarlieMummyBear]

how many times have men not liked summat weve said/done but then carried it out themselves:

my top 3 have to be:
*u cant stay out all night when u go to town u got kids.. yet they roll in at 4/5am
*u talk to other men it does my head in.. its not u I dont trust its them.. they can talk to females tho cos they known them like foevever!
its not the same, its totally different!! (eg ordering loads and paying but when they have to pay ur takin piss haha)

come on girls whats ur top 3??

oh another classic.. kids wake in night.. u go ur her mum!! (says dad) what the actual fuck!! x

Patronising how? Seriously feminists just can't get it right. If everyone had jumped in and said "men are rubbish" we would have been accused of male bashing.
But refusing to do so and we're patronising!
Impossible.

Yy messy.

Threads full of 'chuh, men are so useless bless em' are far more patronising than a group of women pointing out to someone that she is describing unacceptable behaviour
Rather than a bit of 'oh what a sily man' nonsense

Actually I do find quite a lot of the tone on this forum does involve generalising about men. However my response to OP was that I had not encountered any of the scenarios she described and wouldn't have put up with them if I did.

Had OP posted in relationships or AIBU she'd have got the same responses.

Feminism = having a rant about men?

OP please please do some research into what feminism is as it isn't men bashing.

What messy said.

Although I'm sure Beaky will be back with some pithy ideas on how feminists could improve feminist discourse.

We'll be all ears....

I disagree that it is not a feminist problem though. It strikes me as every inch a feminist problem that there exists this attitude of "Silly men, behaving like arseholes and not pulling their weight, bless their little cotton socks! Tee hee."

It has been an interesting thread. I can see why feminists have a reputation for being humourless. It was supposed to be lighthearted but everyone's responses have been serious. But then, this sort of sexist stereotyping is pretty much anathema to feminism, isn't it, so not sure what other honest response there could be.

Nail. Head. Bang. Collatalie. On both counts.

Further as someone else said upthread if we agreed and started joking about men being unpleasant we'd a) be in contravention of our own stated beliefs (on previous threads) about humour being an apparently legitimate face of expressing sexism and b) with some justification therefore getting lambasted by some of those trolls we keep getting here.

My first response was going to be that we're too high-minded and serious for this sort of thing. We have to be.

Sexism isn't funny, and that's why feminists are humourless on the subject of sexist behaviour!

It strikes me as every inch a feminist problem that there exists this attitude of "Silly men, behaving like arseholes and not pulling their weight, bless their little cotton socks! Tee hee."

Yep.

Tell a good knock knock joke though...

Slight derail but the opening post reminded me of those awful "Bring on the Girls" Boots ads where we're all supposed to get together to pamper (and derail within the derail but isn't "pamper" a truly cringe worthy word?) ourselves? And irritated me for the same reason.

Feminists are constantly told 'not all men are like that' but when they say actually, 'not all men are like that' we're told we're humourless and patronising.
How does that work then?

Don't worry about structural inequality and the oppression of women as a class by men as a class because spa days!

If we wanted to look at the OP from a feminist perspective I would say that OP's DH is simply taking advantage of the freedom afforded him by a society that sees childcare as the responsibility of the mother not the father.

As for the issue of who OP is allowed to talk to I would also say that is a legacy of the sexual double standards. But what is really interesting is that whilst some of us (on the more feminist side of the spectrum) would see that as red flag behaviour, a lot of women would see it as typical and inevitable male behaviour and therefore convince themselves to accept it (and even see it as a sign of love).

As someone upthread indicated, don't confuse male behaviour with gobshite behaviour because not all men are gobshites NAMAG!

I just end relationships the MOMENT I'm given any shit. ie, betold what I'm thinking

I think it's quite sad that OP thinks this is normal male behaviour and rushes to defend her DH. Jealousy is a slippery slope

OP If you want a rant then I would post in AIBU asking AIBU to think my DP is a hypocrite? Anyone else's an arse? If you want advice, relationships is best.

If my DH said these kind of things he would have never made it past the first few months. I had an ex who would annoy me with comments, don't know how I put up with him for a year!

same here mini.
And what the feck is there not to trust about talking to a man, is he going to rape me in the pub because i talked to him, or is he going to persuade silly little me to have a one night stand, because i really am that feeble minded.