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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The Handmaid's Tale on Radio 4's A Good Read

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rosabud · 03/12/2014 00:17

Just wondered if anyone else heard this being discussed on Radio 4 this afternoon? Basically, 2 guests choose a favourite book, read each other's before the show, and then discuss them( along with the presenter) on air.

Today there were 2 women (the presenter and the guest who chose The Handmaid's Tale) and one man (Sean Lock? An actor apparently) discussing this novel. What I found fascinating was that the male guest kept saying "I didn't get it" and seemed to consider the book as just another dystopian novel which he criticised as "more slow-moving" than Orwell's Nineteen-Eighty-Four. The two female guests discussed the novel from a feminist point of view and how the novel made them realise the precarious nature of equality, how women are oppressed by men in society now and how easily what rights we do have could be taken away from us (as they already have been in other parts of the world.) In response, the male guest said that he thought it was very unrealistic and that most people would not go along with such a scenario and so it couldn't really happen.

It made me realise how the male guest is probably very representative of many men who really "don't get" the big deal about women's oppression, they can't see it all, and it all must seem rather dull when women go on about it.

Did anyone else hear it?

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Slarti · 14/12/2014 09:42

Men don't get it. They never truly will. That's the alarming thing, I think. Even the most liberal, forward-thinking, empathetic man in the world won't truly get it without actually being a woman.

THT is a remarkable book and one of the best I have ever read. It's stark warnings are clear and incredibly well communicated. There are only a handful of authors who have really had me in awe of how totally they controlled and commanded the work they produced and Atwood is one of them. Having said that I'm just a lowly man who doesn't have the capacity to understand such things so I've probably not got it at all really.

Slarti · 14/12/2014 09:48

I personally think The Handmaid's Tale shits all over 1984.

Absolutely. I read 1984 once but I keep going back to THT. It's a much more sophisticated book and the gradual revelatory narrative fosters a terrifying empathy with Offred.

pregnantpause · 14/12/2014 10:01

My a level English books were1884 and a hand maids tale- the latter opened my eyes to the world around me and changed my outlook forever, the former interested me and led to a long term interest in sf. The difference between a good book and life changer.

pregnantpause · 14/12/2014 10:01

1984

ChunkyPickle · 14/12/2014 14:03

Slarti - I think you're taking offence where none was meant.

Men can't understand it in the same way that women can't understand what it feels like to be kicked in the testicles - we can empathise, we can guess, but we'll never have an authentic, gut-wrenching reaction.

Not that men are too stupid, but they actually, really do lack the capacity because it can never happen to them.

ChunkyPickle · 14/12/2014 14:04

Sorry Slarti - I've just re-read your post in a different tone of head voice and realise that you were probably speaking in a jokey manner, and I've now gone and been a touch patronising.

UptoapointLordCopper · 14/12/2014 21:18

"The difference between a good book and life changer."

Exactly. When I read 1984 I thought that it was very good and it described things that happened in the world and all that. But THT haunts me and is never very far from the mind. It's frightening. It is one of the greatest books ever written, I think.

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