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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Red lipstick - a feminist dilemma?

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PrincessOfThemyscira · 30/10/2014 19:49

I bought a red lipstick last week, have worn it a few times since, and I'm amazed by mens peoples reactions to me.

Doors have been opened for me, men have moved out of my way on the pavement, I've received warm smiles and a few turned heads, flirty conversations etc. Today I was at a networking event and businessmen were throwing freebies at me. My male colleague was most put out because he had to ask. It was empowering. Or was it?
I have done literally nothing more than put this lipstick on. The rest of my appearance is unchanged.

Initially part of me was pleased - I've had a lot of self esteem issues over the years and this attention is flattering.
Then I began to think how stupid these men are for getting flustered by a bit of make-up. How weak are they?!
And then it began to trouble me. I don't want to be seen as a pair of lips, I want to be valued for who I am and what I say. But if my appearance captures their attention long enough to hear what I have to say...?

Also, surely I have the right to wear what I want on my lips, whether it be red, orange or blue lipstick?!

I suppose basically I'm just a bit confused. I keep feeling manipulative for wearing red lips. But then then I think "Fuck it, I'll wear what I want!".

I suppose you could take this situation and substitute any number of things - short skirt, revealing top etc

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FeckTheMagicDragon · 01/11/2014 13:25

That marked Vs unmarked article was excellent by the way.

Trills · 01/11/2014 13:33

Thanks!

Here's Sali Hughes on why being interested in lipstick is not incompatible with being interested in other things as well.

RudyMentary · 02/11/2014 09:18

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UsedtobeFeckless · 03/11/2014 00:09

I'm too paranoid about lipsticky teeth to smile at anyone when glammed up so it's all a bit counter productive. Plus my mouth is a weird shape because I fell off a horse onto a fence back in the Jurassic ...

However if it makes you feel like a winner slosh it on!

PrincessOfThemyscira · 03/11/2014 20:45

FYI, it's No7 Moisture Drench in Pillarbox Grin

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Trills · 03/11/2014 20:51

I wore dark purplish lipstick today.

One (female) colleague said it looked nice.

Nobody else said anything or behaved any differently.

I'm a bit disappointed.

maddy68 · 03/11/2014 21:13

I wear lots of different coloured lipstick. I get the most comments about when it matches my clothes rather than the particular shade

PrincessOfThemyscira · 03/11/2014 21:28

Those articles are great. Real food for thought.

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OliviaBlue · 04/11/2014 03:51

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PrincessOfThemyscira · 04/11/2014 19:50

Anyone else curious about what OliviaBlue said?!

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FloraFox · 04/11/2014 20:08

It was about "lips" and men.

PenelopeGarciasCrazyHair · 04/11/2014 20:09

Let's just say it wasn't very MN-y. Not sure how much I'm allowed to repost without getting it deleted again, but it was an insensitive comment and not really in keeping with the thread.

PrincessOfThemyscira · 04/11/2014 20:28

No, no. That is fine. No need to repost - I get your jist. Wink

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