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Heartening article about misogyny in sport - from a man

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grimbletart · 23/10/2014 10:59

www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/11179049/From-Oscar-Pistorius-to-Kurtley-Beale-to-Richard-Scudamore-sport-a-seething-cesspool-of-casual-misogyny.html

Daily Telegraph chief sports writer Oliver Brown lays into misogyny in sport. Finishes his article with "Truly, sport is among society"s most stubborn patriarchies of all."

This follows another piece yesterday from him castigating Sheffield United for even considering taking Ched Evans back and saying manager Nigel Clough was wrong to say it is not a decision for him to make. Called on him to make a moral choice.

When the certainly not left wing Daily Torygraph runs these sort of articles and their sports staff call out sport for misogyny and sexism, maybe there is at last a faint hope that men are beginning to "get" it. NAMALT of course Grin

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Anniegetyourgun · 23/10/2014 18:52

But then the Guardian, of which one might have expected better, ran that article about Oscar Pistorius not deserving to go to jail, so it balances out, sadly.

ApocalypseThen · 23/10/2014 18:54

What they need to do is reprint this on cif for the menz to sob over. You can't even blame the feminazis for writing it! It doesn't shame feminism as a misandrist plot by stupid women!

Also, free Oscar!

SevenZarkSeven · 23/10/2014 21:41

great article!

And what a bunch of absolute cunts the men who comment on telegraph articles are. Jesus christ! I'm appalled, and that takes some doing.

SevenZarkSeven · 23/10/2014 21:44

Compared to that the people who post on cif are actually hand-wringing lefties.

I never thought I'd see rape, murder and domestic violence resulting in unconsciousness described as "banter" WTAF.

The daily telegraph is read by the sort of poeple who run the country isn't it.

Fuck me. Just, staggering.

HappyJustToBe · 23/10/2014 21:54

The comments. I despair.

SevenZarkSeven · 23/10/2014 22:01

I'm actually genuinely quite disturbed / upset by the comments, happy.

This paper is the one read by the people who fun everything, isn't it. Along with the times and the FT I guess.

The things they have said I find genuinely shocking. Like, I'm honestly taken aback.

Not quite sure where to put that feeling IYKWIM Sad

SevenZarkSeven · 23/10/2014 22:02

RUN everything not FUN everything!

I don't think they'd have much in common with me in terms of fun, if they see violence against women including beatings, rape and murder as nothing of note, just a bit of banter.

SevenZarkSeven · 23/10/2014 22:03

Because banter is fun isn't it.

I can't get my head round that.

YonicScrewdriver · 23/10/2014 22:46

Never read the comments!!

scallopsrgreat · 23/10/2014 23:56

The comments are mainly from men I see and mainly spouting somewhere between inaccurate shit and blatant lies . It's fucking depressing. Article is spot on though and if the commenters took their heads out of their arses or recognised their privilege for more than a second then they would understand this.

One commenter was spouting that British Rowing has had plenty of women in Senior positions. The last two Chairs of the Board have been female and currently two other members of an 11 strong Executive Board are female. There is no female representation on the coaching or decision making staff at international level.

This is what equality looks like to them. Equality is the benevolence of men to allow women into their upper echelons. Some of them seem to think equality is allowing women to do sport at all. And let's not beat around the bush here. Men do still 'allow' us to do sport. They still have the power to take it away from us.

grimbletart · 24/10/2014 00:27

Newspaper comments generally - whether the papers are of the right or the left - are propped up by a selection of weirdos, narcissists, the disgruntled and those who should get out more. All should be ignored in the interests of your blood pressure. Grin

I don't think the idiots who comment in the Telegraph should be taken any more seriously than the idiots who comment in the Guardian.

Interestingly it was today's Telegraph that also ran a piece on Pistorius that was a hell of a lot more in tune with what I imagine FWR posters attitudes are than the Guardian article mentioned upthread.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/oscar-pistorius/11180223/Another-black-day-for-Reeva-Steenkamp-and-all-women.html

And yes, the comments underneath were also mainly of the weird and inane - true to form.

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