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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Source of this Dworkin quote?

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BriarRainbowshimmer · 30/09/2014 20:15

I've seen this quote posted without context online:

"My prayer for women of the 21st century: harden your hearts and learn to kill." - Andrea Dworkin

I'm curious - is it real? What is the context? I doubt this feminist author is telling women to go out and kill men so I wonder what it means.

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vesuvia · 01/10/2014 02:15

I don't recall coming across "My prayer for women of the 21st century: harden your hearts and learn to kill." in any of Andrea Dworkin's published books. If this is an accurate quotation of Andrea Dworkin, perhaps it's from a speech, interview or magazine article?

I've read Derrick Jensen's interpretation of the quotation. He thinks it means that women should learn self-defence and form women's self-defence groups. Without the original source, however, we can't know if his interpretation is accurate or valid, or even if it's something Andrea Dworkin said or wrote.

(By the way, Jensen wrote/edited a book in 2013 with feminists Gail Dines and Lierre Keith, so he may a feminist ally.)

BriarRainbowshimmer · 01/10/2014 11:29

Thanks vesuvia.
It bothers me when fake or out of context quotes are spread around to make feminist writers seem violent, when they aren't/weren't.

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vesuvia · 01/10/2014 15:14

Yes, misquoting or distorting the context of feminists' writings or sayings is often used against feminists.

I find it interesting that although the "SCUM Manifesto" by Valerie Solanas does include the word "anti-feminists", the text does not include the words "feminist" and "feminism".

vettles · 02/10/2014 23:30

The earliest appearance of it on the web (or at least the earliest found by Google) is from an interview with Derrick Jensen, where he attributes the quote to Dworkin. He does the same in an interview with Gail Dines in 2013, and again on the FAQs page of his organisation, 'Deep Green Resistance'. All the other search results for that quote seem to stem from one of these sources, or don't mention the source.

The only other interesting point is that the name 'Andrea Dworkin', and the phrase "My mind could learn to kill" appear on the same page of a 1981 edition of 'Drama: The Quarterly Theatre Review', which of course might just be a coincidence. But there's no way to know because the full page isn't viewable online.

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