ISIS Fighters - Living the MRA Dream?

[CKDexterHaven]

For obvious reasons pilgrims to join ISIS have been in the news for the last few days. There has been lots of analysis as to why young men might do this - religious fervour, seeking adventure, social alienation, anti-Western feelings - but maybe another factor is getting to live the MRA dream. You get to live like the alpha male warrior you always knew you were, everyone succumbs to your worldview or they die, women will be your adoring handmaidens or they will be sold-off as slaves, men with more meaningful lives will be slain. Is it any wonder that, in a society that sells the fantasy of living as a hyper-macho fuckwad, some men lust for the opportunity for living as a pure hyper-macho fuckwad? Add in religion and you get to feel sanctimonious about behaviour that should have you condemned to the bottom of a padded oubliette. The ISIS world is the world MRAs would have us living in, isn't it?

Why do some people believe that only women will suffer in an extreme patriarchal setup such as that envisaged by the likes of IS and Elliot Rodger?

The killing of men and the rape of women are inextricably linked and caused by the same attitudes which underpin this type of patriarchy in which men compete against each other to obtain status for themselves(being feared = status) as well as to gain access to women who are seen only in terms of sex, breeding and labour. That is why Elliot Rodger killed more men than women (although had he gained access to the sorority that would have been a different matter).

We had this same discussion over ER where feminists were criticised for making it all about them when they had the temerity to point out what ER had blatantly shown in his manifesto: that he was a misogynist. How dare they when more men had died than women? But feminism has always known that men suffer under patriarchy too. It's just anti feminists like to make out that we only care about women.

Is this a wind up? An innocent man is beheaded and you want to make it about feminism?

ISIS is killing thousands, unfortunately I have seen pictures of a beheaded child. They are also forcing women to become second class citizens.

And you want to make it about one white male?

It takes a special sort of poster to turn this around to focus only on one murdered man whilst ignoring the thousands of murdered men, women and children. Think about it.

IS are monsters.

Monsters do not have any preference.

Women, child and men are bring killed.

All through religious history's women have been treated like dirt and worthless. It's one of the reasons I can't fuckng stand it.

Islam is rightly so under the current spot light for it.

IS doesn't = MRA , IS = a fucking terrible terrible revolution that will take man woman and child back to the dark ages.

I'm sorry op but I think your post trying to entwine MRA and IS together for a fem board topic is in bad taste.

My boys are interested in the things that will affect them as they get older and some aspects might be considered mens rights. They are not activists so technically not an issue. The implication that any man interested in promoting men would be interested in joining IS is like saying every feminist believes 90% of men should be killed off. It is shoddy and lazy thinking targeting a group you don't like and then painting them as terrorists. Because one British woman says she wants to behead a Brit or a Yank doesn't men all Islamic women are like that.

I don't like the men who front the MRAs but I don't like a lot of the prominent radical feminists either. Those who actually do things rather than spitting childish rhetoric are the ones I am interested in listening to on both sides.

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Capt - If you're saying that one thing makes them not similar to MRAs, then surely the hundreds of other things I pointed out does. If they had beheaded a woman, would that make them more likely to be MRAs IYO?

So if a murderer kills men and women, but more women, that makes him more likely to be an MRA as he's more similar to them?