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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Why is the sky blue? And is it a feminist issue?

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 07/08/2014 18:01

I'm pondering.

I realize this is kind of a facetious thread to start, but apparently, that's all fine and dandy. Please, do spend your time and energy with detailed answers ... I'll just lie back and ignore.

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ABlandAndDeadlyCourtesy · 07/08/2014 19:08

I tried to do that test on an iphone.

Now THAT was a dumbass plan.

But it means I can add "distinguishing colours" to my Matriarchal Olympics list. Yay!

LRDtheFeministDragon · 07/08/2014 19:10

Oh, yes. I've done that test. Apparently I can see quite a lot of colours - not the absolute top, but not bad. I do get frustrated when people put together shades that look very different to me, but the same to them.

My dad definitely has the 'sludge brown' issue!

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VeryLittleGravitasIndeed · 07/08/2014 19:14

Evidently the way the brain adapts to lack of visual input is to massively increase sensory input (to the brain) via other senses. It develops in childhood. My niece has quite a serious problem with one of her eyes (very very short sighted) - it's treatable but if nothing is done about it by about 7 she'd be blind in that eye - as the brain matures it only develops the bits it's actually using. It's why completely deaf people need cochlear implants to be done in early childhood apparently. Brain plasticity...

And yes, it is annoying that despite all evidence to the contrary people prefer a simple "male brain/female brain" dichotomy. When I'm feeling uncharitable I put it down to other people being stupid.

ABlandAndDeadlyCourtesy · 07/08/2014 19:16

They aren't stupid, they're light clever!

geekaMaxima · 07/08/2014 19:20

Humans (and most primates) see three colours because we have three types of cone in the retina that respond to different wavelengths of light: red, green, and blue (more or less). Every shade of colour we perceive and name is just a combination of those three basic colours.

But some women - and only women, not men - have four types of cones and can see extra colours the rest of us don't. They can perceive differences in colour that most of us will never be able to. I think that's rather cool (research is ongoing).

Bet the sky isn't blue for those women! Grin

LRDtheFeministDragon · 07/08/2014 19:23

Oh, that is so cool!

I'm really glad I started this thread, just for that.

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VeryLittleGravitasIndeed · 07/08/2014 19:30

Ooh Matriarchal Olympics! What else is in?
I did quite well on "seeing colours" too. I think this is why I was so happy when we upgraded Excel at work from the old version with the ugly colours to the new version with the better colours.

I was about to apologise for my aesthetic snobbery then it occurred to me that maybe "things looking pretty" is a traditionally female thing hence my instinct to apologise. Fuck it, I like things to look nice!

PetulaGordino · 07/08/2014 19:33

thanks for that geeka!

ABlandAndDeadlyCourtesy · 07/08/2014 19:40

So far I have "surviving on the least amount of water" and "distinguishing the most colours" but I'm working on it!

ShadowStar · 07/08/2014 19:45

Does anyone know why blue is now considered a boy's colour?

I heard it used to be the other way round (blue for girls, pink for boys) - but now it's not. What's with that?

Did someone decide that the sky was too important to be a girly colour?

CaptChaos · 07/08/2014 19:47

Thank you for this. You are all wonderful.

Even if you are all terrible bullies.

gamescompendium · 07/08/2014 19:48

The CPK colourscheme is something I've known and used for years. I was at a science museum with DH (also a scientist but a physicist) and made some comment about the elements in a model molecule and he was amazed I knew what was what. I was amazed everyone didn't immediately see a yellow ball and think 'sulphur'.

Missing the point entirely...

These women who have a fourth type of cone, do they see in UV like birds (and insects, is that right?)? And do you all know that stripy animals are stripy because mammals that only see in black and white find it really hard to see stripy animals in grasslands?

LRDtheFeministDragon · 07/08/2014 19:54

Terrible bullies, capt. Horrible. Grin

games - I did know about stripy animals - I guess all sorts of animals must use similar camo. I always wondered why lily beetles are bright red when they live on green plants, then realized whatever is their natural predator presumably can't tell?

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vicmackie · 07/08/2014 20:39

FFS, why are you all so hellbent on forcing the sky into a box labelled "blue"? Hmm

Personally I think it's up to the sky to decide what colour it identifies as.

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 07/08/2014 20:43

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AskBasil · 07/08/2014 20:43

Actually it's now well understood that the sky's colour is on a spectrum and it can play with what colour it wants to identify as that day.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 07/08/2014 20:45

I'm just a SERF. Sad

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BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 07/08/2014 20:47

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PenguinsHatchedAnEgg · 07/08/2014 20:48

This thread is cheering and educating me in equal measure. Hurrah! Wine anyone?

BuffytheReasonableFeminist · 07/08/2014 20:49

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PenguinsHatchedAnEgg · 07/08/2014 20:49

Ooh sorry. Not the pub. Wine probably inappropriate.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 07/08/2014 20:50
Grin

I get to be a Professor when I'm impersonating the MRAs? I suddenly see the appeal.

It is actually a lovely parallel, isn't it? We could argue for hours whether the sky is blue or pink, but it's all just an illusion ... (somehow, I suspect this isn't going to help on the next gender essentialism thread really).

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ABlandAndDeadlyCourtesy · 07/08/2014 20:52

SERF and TERF, LRD?

Tasty!

VeryLittleGravitasIndeed · 07/08/2014 20:54
VeryLittleGravitasIndeed · 07/08/2014 20:55

Penguins I think Wine is entirely appropriate, personally...