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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Do you think this analogy is helpful?

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Bellezeboobian · 30/05/2014 15:29

Just read this on Twitter

What do you think, is it an accurate analogy to use in your opinion?

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Do you think this analogy is helpful?
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ReallyFuckingFedUp · 30/05/2014 15:52

I think it might offend some people because some people don't feel comfortable with rape being compared to other crimes. But I think it makes sense. It's certainly better that the usual mugging analogy that you wouldn't leave your "valuables" where everyone can see them.

CailinDana · 30/05/2014 17:33

Yes and no. There is nice simplicity in the robbery analogy but I am one of the people RFFU refers to as being uncomfortable comparing rape to other crimes, especially robbery. The reason being that it perpetuates the idea that sex is a valuable commodity that men bargain for/steal from women. Women can't "give away" sex in the same way a philanthropist gives away money because that's not how sex works. It's not something to be "given" and "taken," it's a mutually enjoyable activity between two people.

A better analogy, though still not perfect, is sharing food with someone. That's a pleasurable shared activity. Both people participating are mutually enjoying an activity that benefits them both. Say that person A holds up some cake and B shows no particular interest. B doesn't say no, but doesn't smile, doesn't say "mmm," doesn't give any indication they want the cake. It would be acceptable for A to say "Would you like some cake?" and possibly use some very mild persuasion to convince B to have some. But if B continues to show no interest absolutely no one would think it was right for A to then sulk, get stroppy, intimidate or outright force B into eating the cake. The same thing should apply to sex. It is totally and utterly optional in all circumstance to have sex or not. Some friendly mild persuasion is fine and normal, but coercion of any kind is not ok. Ever.

To extend the analogy, no sane person would ever shove cake into the mouth of a very drunk/asleep person. And yet some people thinks it's ok to shove a penis into a very drunk/asleep woman. Why is that I wonder?

CailinDana · 30/05/2014 17:41

The cake analogy also centres around the idea that sex is optional and enjoyable.

Bellezeboobian · 30/05/2014 17:43

Thanks for your posts, interesting thoughts and I agree. Initially when I read it I thought oh that might make people think, but as I thought more about it I realised it's over simplified and not comparable, like you said cailin sex being equated to something like money isn't accurate.

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ReallyFuckingFedUp · 30/05/2014 18:29

Actually some people don't think force feeding cake is such an issue.

BNP deputy leader Simon Darby claimed the accusations were a 'smear' and that Mr Eriksen's remarks had been taken 'completely out of context'.

Mr Eriksen is the author of Sir John Bull, a far-Right blog which has regularly advocated hatred and abuse against women.

On August 24, 2005, Mr Eriksen wrote on the blog: 'I've never understood why so many men have allowed themselves to be brainwashed by the feminazi myth machine into believing that rape is such a serious crime...

'Rape is simply sex. Women enjoy sex, so rape cannot be such a terrible physical ordeal.

'To suggest that rape, when conducted without violence, is a serious crime is like suggesting force-feeding a woman chocolate cake is a heinous offence.

'A woman would be more inconvenienced by having her handbag snatched.'

Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-552692/Sacked-The-BNP-candidate-said-women-like-gongs--need-struck-regularly.html#ixzz33DlPZiqm
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CailinDana · 30/05/2014 18:31

Jesus Christ RFFU.

ReallyFuckingFedUp · 30/05/2014 18:38

I know. Just in case you needed another reason to not vote BNP Hmm

Bellezeboobian · 30/05/2014 18:58

Oh. My. God.

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