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Porn in PIL's loo

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LittleRedDinosaur · 13/05/2014 00:31

A bit of advice from the clever people here would be appreciated:
FIL is a kind and lovely man and I'm very fond of him but he's the kind of person who says "political correctness gone mad" etc and his attitudes are quite old fashioned at times.
MIL bought him a large picture of a woman wearing nothing but knickers and boots at some point in the 1970s/80s as a 'joke'. It is not arty, just porny. It hangs proudly in the loo. DH is embarrassed by this but grew up with it. I've always thought it was odd but not thought to challenge it.
Now we've got children I feel differently about it. I feel like having it there is sending a message about women that I don't want my children to accept.
Do I ask them to take it down? (Been there so long I think it could cause family tension) do I just bring it up and discuss with DC when they are bigger that this isn't a nice way to treat women and grandad was brought up in a time when this was ok even though we all know it isn't now (much in the way that racist old people were sort of tolerated when I was little)
I just feel that having this in their home normalises objectification of women more than coming across the image in a magazine etc would.
Any thoughts would be appreciated, thanks

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areyoutheregoditsmemargaret · 16/05/2014 13:25

Well, quite. I didn't buy and that played a part. I think they thought it was ironic and retro Hmm

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TeiTetua · 16/05/2014 14:50

It's good to see that an attempt to confuse nudity with pornography has fooled nobody!

But I've faced something like this with my own parents. For years they had this print in their front hall, and I'm sure they never really thought about what it shows:
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You can go along for years hardly thinking about something, just assuming that it's respectable. Then it occurred to me that this poster shows an incapably drunk woman being hustled along by two stalwart policemen; they're taking her to a particular bar, where you the viewer can meet her, and then who knows what may happen, eh mon ami. And is it just a coincidence that the French for violin is "violon" and the word for rape is "viol"?

Well, the crisis never came. In the course of a redecoration project the picture went into the back of a cupboard, where it seems to be staying.

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BriarRainbowshimmer · 16/05/2014 15:02

What a disturbing drawing Tei...it looks so merry.

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morethanpotatoprints · 16/05/2014 15:11

I don't think this would bother me neither its art not pornography, unless the boot clad woman is giving somebody a blow job, or takin it up the wrong un.
Sorry, couldn't resist lowering the tone. Grin
My dc when about 17 and 14 helped me sort out my late dads belongings and he was a brilliant artist who still had lots of naked still life drawings from his college days. It was quite funny imagining him painting these nude women all these years ago.

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BriarRainbowshimmer · 16/05/2014 15:52

Soft porn is still porn.

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CrispyFern · 19/05/2014 08:11

Am I the only one who suspects solid gold brass has a picture of Sam Fox (winking in a pair of cowboy boots and chewing a blade of grass) on her toilet wall too?
It's like people who come on "Well actually I think pebbly twigs with fairy lights are THE HEIGHT OF SOPHISTICATION!"

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SolidGoldBrass · 19/05/2014 10:08

Nope. I've got a picture of a teddy bear in a gimp suit in my loo, seeing as you asked.

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dementedma · 20/05/2014 22:22

Their house, their choice.
You either put up with it or stop going round there.

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dementedma · 20/05/2014 22:22

Their house, their choice.
You either put up with it or stop going round there.

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