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Mother and newborn daughter burned to death in India (distressing)

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FrigginRexManningDay · 01/02/2014 16:08

Has anyone else seen this story? I'm on my phone so can't do links.

They were doused in kerosene and set alight by her husband and in laws because the baby was a girl and there was some dispute over a dowry. They were still alive after suffering 90% burns but died later in the hospital.

Now the reason I have put this in feminism is because of the astonishing, cruel torture that befalls a vast number of women and girls in India, accompanied by the high gender based abortion rates and murder of newborn girls. What can we do to stop this?
If western aid stops then the poorest in India will only suffer more. But we can't stand idly by while this is going on. Of course I don't mean us as individuals but us as a nation.
Lets face it if this was men being killed beaten and raped at such a rate there would of course be uproar.

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greenhill · 01/02/2014 16:34

It's an awful story, but there is one reassuring thing we can take from the horror of it: it was newsworthy enough to make the international newspapers, complete with graphic photographs and will be condemned by the international community too.

The horror stories that are coming out of India are coming out for a reason: India does not want to be the type of country in which this sort of thing happens. Stories of gang rape, murder of street children, domestic violence and other horrors are all being reported, it is causing outrage and public condemnation. You will probably have seen reports and photos of mass protests about these incidents too.

The old idea that life was cheap, because there were so many people, that individual stories/ tragedies could be ignored, is no longer true. The release of this story can only be a good thing as it means India is moving forward and wants justice for all.

specialsubject · 01/02/2014 16:35

how utterly horrible - probably best that there isn't a link.

it will solve itself in a few decades because at this rate, there won't be enough women left to marry the men or have the children. The gender ratio in India is already very out of balance.

There IS uproar in parts of India when these crimes happen - but superstition continues to breed these murders, and even though India is a democracy the government appears powerless to do anything.

There is nothing that the UK can do, except enforce and educate to try to stop it happening here.

grimbletart · 01/02/2014 17:06

Do you think, if someone explained some very simple biology to this husband i.e. that it was his sperm that determined his wife had a daughter, would he think it OK if he was set on fire? Answers on a postage stamp please.

FrigginRexManningDay · 01/02/2014 18:36

There is personal horror and localised protesting but wheres the worlds uproar that this is happening and will continue to happen. Or do poor, uneducated women not really matter.

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sandfish · 02/02/2014 11:12

I'm just speechless with anger about this story. Yet another example of the way women and girls are subhumans to some.

What can we do? Well there are many poor Indians, but don't forget plenty of wealthy and educated ones too. The question should be what can they do because they really need to step up and sort out this national disgrace for their country.

Our government should be putting pressure on their counterparts in India to work to bring about a cultural change.

Now some would shy away from this for fear of accusations of cultural or economic imperialism, but frankly you have to draw a moral line somewhere and say this is beyond the pale. Otherwise you end up in a mire of moral relativism where you try to justify the unjustifiable.

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