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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Anti rape clothing

35 replies

freyasnow · 03/11/2013 23:15

This clothing cannot be taken off by anyone other than the wearer, even if the wearer is unconscious. It cannot be cut or torn.

vimeo.com/74514464

Does anyone have an opinion on this? I know that there is the whole argument about what the victim is wearing making no difference, but if the rapist literally cannot get the victim's clothes off, would that reduce the likelihood of some kinds of rape? Obviously it makes no difference if the victim is forced to undress.

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MurderOfGoths · 03/11/2013 23:16

Seems dangerous if someone wearing it was in an accident and needed clothes cut off them.

FetchezLaVache · 03/11/2013 23:27

Agree with MoG; also, it's just one more thing that puts the onus onto the victim not to get raped rather than rapists not to rape, IMO.

AlexaChelsea · 03/11/2013 23:29

Are you shitting me?

You want me to lock myself into clothing, so I don't get raped?

Fuck off. How about we start spending more money teaching men and boys not to rape, rather than make girls lock themselves into clothes that can't be taken off.

Jesus Christ.

AngelsLieToKeepControl · 03/11/2013 23:31

I didn't really like the tone of the whole video, it had a slight undercurrent of victim blaming imo.

The product just reminded me of a chastity belt, why should we have to lock our vaginas away to feel safe?

I'm pretty sure that it wouldn't make me feel any safer wearing these at all.

treaclesoda · 03/11/2013 23:34

that's bloody terrible. If this became commonplace it would only be a matter of time before any woman not wearing it would be seen to be giving out 'mixed messages' or some other similar crap.

Clobbered · 03/11/2013 23:36

I would worry about worse things being done, after all rape is a crime of violence, no? Would other bits of me get damaged instead? Also agree re need to remove clothes in accident situation. Don't think I want to watch that video...

grimbletart · 03/11/2013 23:41

Jesus wept! Why not devise locking trousers for men and give the key to their wife, girlfriend or mother?

Stop with the victim blaming FFS.

ThePitOfStupid · 04/11/2013 00:00

What does a rapist do when he can't get his victim's underwear off?

MistAllChuckingFrighty · 04/11/2013 00:04

Does this "clothing" also include something to jam a potential victim's mouth closed too ?

Superglue the lips together, perhaps. That should do it.

TeiTetua · 04/11/2013 00:05

"Why not devise locking trousers for men and give the key to their wife, girlfriend or mother?"

It seems to me that this is a good way to prevent excessive drinking, also. Come to think of it, it might reduce attacks on women by keeping the blokes sober, too.

PacificDogwood · 04/11/2013 00:06

That's a horrible idea Shock.

Even if it worked which I just cannot imagine, putting the onus on the potential victim??

DoubleLifeIsALifeOfSorts · 04/11/2013 00:11

Oh dear. Chastity belts all over again. Well intentioned but horribly horribly wrong

EBearhug · 04/11/2013 00:13

If this became commonplace it would only be a matter of time before any woman not wearing it would be seen to be giving out 'mixed messages' or some other similar crap.

As I was watching, I was thinking rapists would decide that any woman not wearing them would be up for it. It would lead to victim blaming, "Oh well, she wasn't wearing her anti-rape knickers, so what can she expect? She deserves it if she doesn't go out wearing her anti-rape knickers.

I bet they'd cost a fortune, too.

impty · 04/11/2013 00:17

Chastity belts, medieval, and ridiculous. Same thing in polyester.

Plus if you were terrified, you'd take them off. I'm sure some rape victims stop struggling in order to live. Doesn't mean they comply.

Ridiculous.

APartridgeAmongThePigeons · 04/11/2013 02:31

I really don't like the part where she asks parents about their children or those who "they care for". I can see it being something parents insist their children wear.

I don't think it's particularly helpful as you are more likely to be raped by someone you know. So Being naked or told to get naked will still happen. And if you are out I suppose they will just orally assault you.

I don't think it is "victim blaming" to give women options though. It's victim blaming if you ask "why" they weren't wearing it after a rape. But if a woman wants to wear them and feels more confident wearing it I suppose it has achieved it's aim.

I can imagine there are countries where just a being a woman out about and alone means risk of sexual assault and if someone wanted to wear them there or when visiting it's up to them.

LoopaDaLoopa · 04/11/2013 03:31

Terrible, terrible idea

crunchybargalore · 04/11/2013 03:38

I can not believe it!

Also look at the advert! WTAF!

How dis empowering!

Chubfuddler · 04/11/2013 04:48

This cannot be real

Does anyone think that rape works like this? He can't get your knickers off, so, whst then? He apologises and gets back behind the laurel bush ready to jump out on someone else?

FFS

sashh · 04/11/2013 06:58

Chub it is, it's been on twitter and 'everyday victim blaming'

Chubfuddler · 04/11/2013 07:05

You're shitting me

How depressing

lisad123everybodydancenow · 04/11/2013 07:31

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EirikurNoromaour · 04/11/2013 07:39

The result would be one angry and frustrated rapist. I can't see how these would have any positive benefit and they spark paranoia (wear them on a first date?!) not to mention pure victim blaming.

CailinDana · 04/11/2013 08:40

It seems to me that there is all sorts of superstitious magical thinking around rape. It's so seldom talked about in real life that in general all people have to go on when dealing with it is their own imaginings and anything shown in films/tv shows. This product brings to mind a child's suggestion that tying a balloon to plane will stop it crashing. A well intentioned but naive idea that no one should take seriously. The fact that actual grown adults are suggesting this as though it's a good idea is quite scary really. It just shows the huge amount of ignorance there is about how whyand where rape actually happens.

PacificDogwood · 04/11/2013 08:56

I've been thinking about this over night.

How is this any different than saying "What does she expect, wearing that short skirt?"

Victim blaming at it's worst Angry.

I would also fear that some survivors of rape/sexual assault may reach for this rather than whatever therapy they might need for their trauma, thereby subconsciously reinforcing that it was something they did that led to their being attacked Sad.

I am still hoping this is some kind of hoax...

MurderOfGoths · 04/11/2013 09:10

Thinking on this more, what if the victim was scared enough to remove it, would that be used as some sort of marker of consent? :(

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