The Feminist Pub is Open - Chat, Rant, or pull up a chair here!

[LRDtheFeministDragon]

This thread started when we all decided to imagine what the perfect local for feminists would be like. So far, it has taps with plenty of good real ale, and some decent non-alcoholic alternatives too. There are comfy chairs and there's a feminist film night, as well as lots of nice feminist-friendly books on the shelves and space to curl up and read. The open-mic nights are attracting feminist singers and comedians, and we're just sorting out the feminist creche.

Please come along, draw up a stool, and have a good chat about whatever you fancy - as serious or as trivial as you like.

For starters, I have a half-pint of lemonade. What can I get anyone?

it is from a Midsummers Night Dream Act 3 Scene 2 p13.

It is beautiful. I had it engraved on a piece of driftwood for my niece who was born with serious brain damage (medical negligence). My DD adopted it as a mantra years ago during her surgery. All the women in my family are little and fierce!

Eldritch

I bought her some wrist weights to gently increase her strength and stamina. She goes to the gym for Pilates and does Alexander Technique to combat limitations in bending. She has nuts and bolts from neck to butt and a scar to match. She tells people the ones along her side are Tiger scratches. They do look like a tiger swiped at her. She is proud of them. I wish more women would be proud of marks like stretch marks/C section scars - they are marks on our 'pages'.

You know what they say, believe them when someone tells you who they are. Well sometimes on thraeds discussing issues related to feminism, people make throw away comments that tell you exactly what they really think of women, or women in porn or being prostituted.

Eldritch - they do put that slogan on t-shirts - RSC t-shirts. DD2 has it in the kids' size!

Mig - Your daughter sounds one tough cookie. I hope mine grow up to have that determination and resilience. Sorry to hear of her health problems though.

oooh, thanks Penguins! That's going in DD's Christmas stocking, pronto!

Off topic, but I quite like this one too.

The fierce quotation is on loads of other products too here

And my all time favourite. The 'out damned spot' rubber - here

Wow i didn't know they had T shirts with that slogan on. If they have a baby one, that's going in the stocking for my niece. Thanks Penguin

Thanks Eldritch. I'm sure your daughter will because she'll follow your example.

I wish the fierce ones weren't all pink though (picky).

Have just ordered a couple of T's.

I know Eldritch. It would be nice in a range of colours, but I'll take what I can get.

Mig - The t-shirts start at age 1. There is a baby vest too but they seem to only have 3-6 months.

Buffy - Isn't it the best thing ever!

Ha ha, it will be like a secret sign to fellow FWR MNers. All walking round with RSC products.

I would like the t-shirt, but sadly I am not little. Particularly at the moment as I'm 3 months pregnant and already starting to show. They don't have one which says "tall and tough with it"

Have gone back and ordered the baby all in one vest . Shame it is pink but Rome wasn't built in a millenium day.

at the secret sign

That quotation suits my DDs too. Nobody messes with them, though they look quiet enough. DD1 especially, the only thing she's frightened of is spiders. :o

Love those quotation things!

Just been reading this really interesting post.

sexnotgender.com/2013/02/26/gender-identity-and-god/

I'm really moved by your posts about your DD and your DN Mignonette
I hold secret dreams of being a pastry chef.

Thank you Ghost and its never too late to fulfill a dream. It can be unexpectedly conducive to family life if you have somebody at home to be w/ children during early mornings starts common to pastry work.

My niece is doing really well. We had no expectation that she would survive and I flew to Germany to be w/ my brother when they took her off life support. Unexpectedly as we landed I got a text saying they'd decided to treat. I don't know how I'd have got off the plane without that news especially as my sister cried the whole flight and was distraught. So very glad to have this little baby girl in all our lives.

Grennie, that Voltaire leader quote is hair raisingly evocative and meaningful for me. And yes, gender identity involves the same mechanisms as religious faith does- no requirement of objective proof. A delusion of gender identity also requires an absence of proof because a delusion is defined by its absolute lack of an external stimuli whereas an illusion is a misinterpretation of an external stimuli (just answering one of the comments posted after that link).

You'll have to bear w/ me as am only just starting to familiarise myself w/ some of these theories, so apologies of my thoughts appear scattered and unformed.

oh dear lord, now I am going to waste time on the RSC site, and I can't even order anything!

Hello, I am just checking in, 12 hr day at work, was physically/emotionally/cognitively demanding and I'm on the Stongbow .

I have not read LRD's blog, I have not dug around re brain research, I have barely seen my children today (apart from peeling DS4 off my leg to screams of 'Don't go to work, mummy, no work, no work'), DH and I just shared a Chinese dinner. 'Tis not all bad.
And tomorrow I am going on a course about something I am not particularly interested in, but I feel I could do with an update about because I am not particularly interested in it.
Sigh.

Thanks for listening.
Nothing to contribute.
Loving the RSC website .

And one thing I am sure that toddler boys do more than toddler girls is playing with their penises.
Yy to that.
We had to have a rule that in the bath everybody could play with their own bits, but had to leave everybody else's in peace. And that included DH's . Just imagine, 5 penises in one bath not all of them continent

Sorry Kick

Now there's an image that will stay Pacific.

I have photographic evidence including one water-feature caught on...em, pixels which will be whipped out at the excruciating moment I can think of .
No, not really. I am not cruel. Much...

Just back from the rugby club Halloween disco. Help. Small girls doing sexy dancing to Robin Thicke in inappropriate outfits.

Oh, Gnawer, here, have a shot to go with that pint.
I would SO struggle with that.

Early sexualisation of children is one of my pet hates.
Often encouraged by the same people who are against early education about how the body works, against easy access to contraception and against anything remotely truly empowering to women.

Urgh

how would you go about countering that, if it were your own DD?
I don't think I'd know where to start