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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Why is the word bitch misogynistic?

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pregnantpause · 16/09/2013 09:53

I work with men. Lots of them. Recently I challenged them on referring to women as bitches as it's derogatory and misogynistic. They argued that as they aren't referring to all women as bitches- just the ones who are bitches, then yes it's derogatory but not misogynist. They stated that as they also use the word against men, my argument that it's a word only applied women, to put down women, and supposed feminine characteristics it is wrong.
I know that it is misogynistic, has anyone here got anymore concrete an argument for me. I'm useless as holding up this feminist banner- I always lose when I challenge any misogynySad

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YoniBottsBumgina · 16/09/2013 10:08

Because it's not just used to mean "mean person", it's specifically applied to women, it would be rare to use it to describe a man (especially a straight man) and if it is used then it tends to be derogatory in a "he's acting like a woman" way which is offensive. (e.g. Don't be a whiny bitch about it)

I would say the main offensive use of it though is the more general use, "bitches love that" "She's my bitch" etc. It has an implication of property, it is othering, is implies that women are almost a different species. It is VERY objectifying and doesn't acknowledge that women are people, they are just "bitches"

If your colleagues are using it in the sense of "mean-spirited woman" then they probably won't link it to the second meaning but it could be worth pointing out that it is only ever used about women and if it is used about a man then it is implying that they are lesser because they are behaving like a woman.

IME though this isn't the best kind of thing to challenge as people see it as splitting hairs or being "professionally offended" about a term they probably haven't thought much about the implications of. I had more success with challenging rape jokes/rape myths/victim blaming/general blatant objectification.

BitBewildered · 16/09/2013 10:14

One of the definitions of the word bitch is 'a person who undertakes demeaning tasks for another', as well as the idea of someone being 'bitchy' meaning catty, spiteful, or malicious, which are all characteristics ascribed to women - although clearly all people are capable of behaving like that.

I suppose calling a man a bitch is to suggest that he is an inferior man by suggesting he is in some way female - so less of a real man, what with being a real man the greatest thing anyone could hope to achieve Hmm.

PeterParkerSays · 16/09/2013 10:18

I would say because it reduces a woman, and the term is only applied to women, to the level of a dog, which have always been subservient to men.

pregnantpause · 16/09/2013 10:24

It was used in the term 'bitches be bitches'. As a joke, yes, but still hugely misogynist. I don't risk seeming professionally offended with them, I am very much part of the group, I suppose this is partly why I lose the arguments- it's all very friendly and jokey.

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CHJR · 05/10/2013 16:21

And we call men "bastards" ie illegitimate. So insult a man by insulting his mother (in an assumption, of course, that having a child out of wedlock is immoral which just doubles the insult for... the woman, as usual)

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YoniTime · 05/10/2013 22:13

It confuses me that it means both mean-spirited woman and someone subordinate. Like in "making someone your bitch." I guess it implies that being like a bitch is being like a woman and that means you're subordinate which is of course miogynistic.

The word feels really hateful anyhow.

ayahushca · 06/10/2013 00:05

When you call a man a bastard you're not really insulting his mother. You're insulting him. Or more specifically you're insulting his failure (to a patriarchal brain) to defend his mother. But you're primarily insulting him (so therefore to "be a man") and calling him worthless in just the same way bitch is used.

When someone calls a man "a son of a bitch" In 95% of cases they don't know the mother, and aren't thinking of them when they make the insult. It's intended purely to wound the protective male identity. and therefore their sense of wellbeing as a man. In the abuser's mind, the mother doesn't come into it.

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