Women knocks man off bike

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2328397/Trainee-accountants-Twitter-boast-knocking-cyclist-bike-sparks-police-probe.html

Needless to say MRAs are throwing abuse at her on MRA sites

What if the man had cut out in front of her?

why is this a gendered issue? If she is boasting about deliberately knocking a cyclist of his or her bike then she shouldn't be surprised about people getting angry at her, and her gender or sex is irrelevant.

Of course, if she gets gendered insults that's another story. However "idiot driver endangers other people's lives" doesn't make me feel sorry for the idiot driver at all.

Also, tweeting whilst driving rightfully carries a fine and points.

antimisandry.com/girls-gone-wild/hit-run-then-tweet-about-51748.html

quote:Pussy pass again. How would the police treat a man who knocked a woman off a bike and then boasted about it? The "violence against women" mania would set in and he'd be arrested and charged with multiple matters (dangerous driving, speeding, failure to report an accident, etc.). However, the woman just gets asked to report the accident ('RTC') as she should have done in the first place.

Reading the beeb story the tweet was the least bad thing she's done. Knocking a cyclist off their bike without stopping is disgusting, and sadly not uncommon.

I'm not reading the DM but assuming this is the Emma Way case that was over online news sources a couple of weeks ago the issue was that she

• knocked a cyclist over and didn't stop (leaving scene of traffic accident is illegal)
• then boasted about it on Twitter
• and spouted ignorant crap about road tax (there's no such thing as road tax)
• all this following a history (as revealed from her Twitter account before it was deleted) of texting and using her mobile phone while at the wheel

All of that is pretty uncontroversially bad stuff whether the cyclist cut out in front of her or not . That only affects whether she was unreasonable/criminal to have hit him in the first place. She complains that the public have only had "one man's side of the story" but the incident had gone viral before Toby Hockley was even identified, still less had publically commented -- the public condemnation she got was based entirely on her own "side of the story" before she realised that it was making her look bad.

I'm not surprised that MRA have picked up on it as it's pretty typical for them to start commenting whenever a woman does anything wrong -- but that doesn't mean that it's actually a FWR issue and it doesn't mean that she wasn't wrong..

That's what gets me Widow, she thinks it was a mistake to send the tweet, but she has not said it was a mistake to injure another person using her car or fail to stop afterwards.

My husband is a cyclist, and I'm always concerned about drivers. He once had been knocked off by someone who drove off (she turned into the road he was cycling on - he was wearing hi-vis) - he caught up with her at the next red light and gave her an earful. She then complained he would have traumatised the child on the back seat by shouting at her.

No consideration how traumatised my children would have been if he had been seriously injured or killed by her actions.

I don't see why this is worth posting in FWR TBH.
She did a nasty thing and tweeted about it without embarrassment, and the MRA are using it as something to complain about.

What a surprise. She was wrong on all and any accounts, and gave ammunition to others who were looking for any reason to denigrate women as a whole.

Then you pop up defending her OP?

Yeah, I agree with goblin.

She is in the wrong. People like her make me furious and I sincerely hope she gets properly punished for it.

If I hit a cyclist, even if it were my right of way, I would be shaken and upset and while I'd doubtless be angry, I would also be thinking 'shit, could I have done something to avoid that?', because good driving is defensive driving.

In other news, MRA twits are MRA twits.

But is she judged for being a 'woman driver' or for being an asshats who uses her mobile while driving, feels entitled over other road users and actively endangers them?

I don't think a man would be judged any less for this kind of behaviour.

Me either.

She's actually playing up to the opposite of the stereotype of a woman driver, if she's complaining about other cars being slow and taking pride in being aggressive and dangerous. She's being utterly irresponsible and stupid with it, but the stereotype she's acting out isn't 'woman driver' IMO.

MRAs really are scraping the barrel if they are trying to make this an anti-feminist thing. So a woman does something wrong, what the hell does that have to do with discrimination? If she'd hit another woman, would that have been OK? Are we only allowed equal rights if no woman ever does anything wrong?

What a pile of tosh.

Yes, I really don't think she's being judged differently (except on the MRA boards, but then they lost touch with reality some time ago) because she's a woman. She's being judged for being a gender-neutral asshat.

I think it's quite likely that she's being given more of a platform to repeatedly appear trying to give "her side of the story" because she's young and female and conventionally attractive, mind you. But that ought to be an advantage (as it is, every time she opens her mouth she shows such a spectacular lack of awareness of what it was she did wrong that she's rather wasting the opportunity).

And what malenky said too -- she isn't doing the classic "woman driver" stereotype at all (insofar as her driving may have been bad, it's in more of a stereotypically "male" fashion) and I've not seen her sex brought up in any mainstream forums or comments.

For once, I don't think this is a really gendered issue. She did something dangerous and unpleasant and bragged about it, and is now feeling the backlash. I think a man would be treated the same way, apart from on MRA boards of course.

If this had been a man that knocked a woman off a bike, left her in the road and drove off, only to boast and laugh about it later online, would
you not be going for him accusing him of being typical of the violence against women by men. The fact that he could treat her like shit and drive away laughing about it?
Some mra's are arseholes just like some feminists are arseholes. But are you surprised that so many of them are livid with her and the way it has been handled?

Yes, I am surprised.

I don't get your point.

Violence is gendered. If a man is violent to a woman, yes, that's typical of the wider dynamics of violence. I'm not sure why you think it's odd to say that.

The fact that this isn't representative of the wider gendered dynamic of violence doesn't excuse this woman in the slightest.