Unbelievable cruelty

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www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/30/el-salvador-deny-abortion-seriously-ill-woman

How can this still happen in the 21st century? After the debacle of the woman in Ireland dying after medical staff refused to terminate an unviable miscarrying foetus, El Salvador tops it.

They are forcing a sick woman (lupus, kidney failure) whose life could be at serious risk, to carry a foetus suffering from anencephaly (missing large parts of its skull and brain and doomed to die within days of birth) to term.

A 4-1 ruling by the country's highest court said: "The rights of the mother cannot be privileged over those" of the foetus'.

Needless to say the churches have been busying lobbying against the termination.

Are these bastards halfway human? It certainly tells you, when a sick woman's life is worth less than an unviable brain damaged foetus, what value is placed on a woman's life in some parts of the world i.e. zero.

I saw that. Awful.

I also think it's unethical to let a foetus that will not possibly survive go through birth - as I understand it, that foetus can feel some pain, if that's right? I think it's inhumane to force both it and the mother to suffer just to suit some perverted idea of the 'sanctity' of life.

I completely agree. I saw this earlier, I hate the "rules are rules" mentality that comes into play over this decision.

The mother and the foetus will experience pain as a direct result of this awful decision, made worse by the fact of the foetus dying at term or only having a few days (or hours) at best. How can that be right?

I saw this earlier too. My heart is with this poor woman. I feel so privileged that I would never have to go through what she has to. But we shouldn't be made to feel like that. Bodily autonomy should be available for all women.

Women really aren't seen as fully human.

There should be a law that indicts the 4 for manslaughter if that woman dies. Pigs may fly....

Well the "good" news is that this woman has been "granted" an early c-section

Aren't these men magnanimous?

If that women were in Ireland she would have the same fate,although legislation is changing.

This can still happen on the 21st century because women are still having to fight to be recognised as human

If that women were in Ireland she would have the same fate,although legislation is changing.

Didn't an Irish woman in exactly the same situation travel to the UK for a termination and then took her case to the European court of human rights?

The RC church has blood on its hands, these laws (Ireland, South America) are all based on RC doctrine.

I bet prayers are being said for the foetus to survive.

there was a link on that page to a case in El Salvador where a woman was sentenced to 30 years for having a miscarriage at 7 months, on no evidence other than the opinion of a doctor that she was she was responsible for it. there are apparently many other similar women in prison, and poor women who miscarry are under suspicion immediately.

" Previous legal access to abortion in cases of rape, incest, a threat to the woman's life or health or severe foetal abnormality was repealed in 1998, and abortion was criminalised in all circumstances: even to save a woman's life. Abortion is punishable with up to eight years in prison, but if the foetus is deemed to have been viable, the charge is habitually converted to murder, which carries a sentence of 30 to 50 years."

and we still see people wanting abortion criminalised further in the UK and USA.
I despair.

There is nothing I can add to this apart from my absolute horror.

Speechless, this is bloody sickening.

Poor woman :(

Pro life my fucking arise, how can you be so pro life of a fetus that you don't care if a living woman suffers or dies?!