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Keir Starmer says Rape investigations 'undermined by belief that false accusations are rife'

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NormaStanleyFletcher · 13/03/2013 06:47

This bit makes me a little worried

"Following completion of the CPS study, false allegation cases involving rape and domestic violence will no longer routinely be referred to the DPP. "These cases will now be handled by [CPS] areas rather than headquarters, but we will continue to have an assurance regime where reports are sent in every six months," Starmer said."

When they were all being referred to Keir's department I felt more comfortable; I don't know exactly why but I have trust in him.

This bit is very interesting I thought

Of 159 suspects linked to allegedly false claims referred to the CPS between January 2011 and May 2012, 92% were women. Nearly half of them were 21 or under. One surprise was that in 38% of those investigations, the initial complaint of rape or domestic violence was made by someone other than the suspect. Among those under 18 it was 50% and often involved a parent

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LineRunner · 13/03/2013 23:51

Yes it looks like the PCC deals with online content in this kind of case.

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LineRunner · 13/03/2013 23:53

running bloody hell

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TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 14/03/2013 00:34

WTF is the BBC up to?

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Darkesteyes · 14/03/2013 00:43

Bloody hell What the fuck are they playing at.

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NormaStanleyFletcher · 14/03/2013 05:20

Did they employ someone who couldn't read to write it, or someone with an agenda

That was the question I asked upthread, and it looks like someone with an agenda really. Doesn't it?

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NormaStanleyFletcher · 14/03/2013 05:25

The links at the bottom of that interview with the police officer are all to stories of false claims too Angry

And from what she says, you could equally say that she is reassuring the victim that all the facts will be fully investigated.

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Greythorne · 14/03/2013 08:28

This is really important. A man who runs a special interest group advocating for individuals falsely accused is writing articles about rape stats.

WTF is going on at the BBC?

Well spotted, linerunner.

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NormaStanleyFletcher · 14/03/2013 09:14

Greythorne - I don't think he runs faso. I think he posted on there, rather like media requests get posted on here (and there are other journalists who have posted asking for similar things on the faso site)

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MyNameIsInigoMontoya · 14/03/2013 12:49
Shock
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NormaStanleyFletcher · 14/03/2013 13:08

That response from the beeb to evaw is pathetic.

The journalist who wrote the newsbeat article has obviously been trying to write an article about how bad false accusations for months, and has used this report as a (poor) excuse.

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Greythorne · 14/03/2013 14:00

Oh, yes, ok, sorry, I see it's a media request and not something the site owners have posted.

Apologies.

But the issue remains that Harvey clearly had an agenda.

Fucking BBC.

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KateMumsnet · 14/03/2013 14:10

Hi all - just popping in to let you know that we have a guest blog on this topic today, from Holly Dustin of the End Violence Against Women coalition.

Do have a look and let us know what you think?

We've also got interesting posts from Mumsnet Bloggers Glosswitch, My Elegant Gathering of White Snows, and A Hot Bath Won't Cure It.

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KarlosKKrinkelbeim · 14/03/2013 14:20

Obsessing about false allegations of rape rather than rape itself is roughly akin to standing in the salon of theTtitanic as it sinks worrying about a speck on the wallpaper, so minute in scale is the one problem compared with the other.
people sometimes tell lies. Not women, but people. On the whole, when it comes to maing reports to the police, they don't. When they do, there are safeguards in place to protect the innocent. Now let's move on and worry about the real problem.

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Bramshott · 14/03/2013 14:35

So the BBC's angle is that their report yesterday was "a story commissioned to specifically examine what it was like to be falsely accused of rape" which JUST HAPPENED to come out on the same day as the CPS report Hmm?

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Greythorne · 14/03/2013 14:45

Sorry, I have missed the BBC reply, where is that?

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Bramshott · 14/03/2013 14:48

It's on the EVAW page if you scroll down to the end of their letter to the BBC.

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Bramshott · 14/03/2013 14:50

I'm still reeling from the fact that the BBC decided including 'on our facebook page Gina described false accusations as ?disgusting?' in their official reply was a helpful and grown-up contribution to the discussion Hmm.

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Greythorne · 14/03/2013 15:00

The BBC report gives whole new meaning to the term disingenuous.

FFS

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TunipTheVegedude · 14/03/2013 15:07

The BBC response is insulting and the Eaves reply to it excellent.

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ArbitraryUsername · 14/03/2013 15:44

Yes, the BBC response is seriously inadequate and very clearly shows that they just do not care. In fact, they seem to think that having perpetuated rape myths and gotten Facebook comments that confirm their success in doing so is A Good Thing. Hmm

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LineRunner · 14/03/2013 15:45

Greythorne it was runningforthebusinheels who did the major detective work. She's very switched on!

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LineRunner · 14/03/2013 15:47

KateMumsnet Many thanks for the links.

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MurderOfGoths · 14/03/2013 17:13

That's a pathetic response, and the comments they've chosen as a response are just the icing on the cake Angry

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NormaStanleyFletcher · 14/03/2013 18:10

Oh dear. Don't go and read the comments on the Huffington Post article about the beeb article.

Depressing as hell

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Trekkie · 14/03/2013 18:27

I wonder how the police officer who was interviewed has reacted to her video about assuring victims they will be believed and that their cases would be thoroughly investigated, being "reinterpreted" by newbeat as a warning to rape victims.
FFS.

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