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Met rape unit encouraged woman to drop case against murderer

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OptimisticPessimist · 26/02/2013 13:05

This is just awful. A rape victim was encouraged by an officer from Sapphire to drop a rape charge against a man who later went on to murder his children.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-21586786

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AbigailAdams · 26/02/2013 13:28

I was just coming on to post this. There is a definite inference that this was recorded as a false allegation. Another feather in the cap of Sapphire Hmm

Writehand · 26/02/2013 13:37

This whole approach failing to prosecute because it looks good in terms of statistics ties in with this weekend's exposure of serious & widespread malpractice in the Crown Prosecution Service.

I read it in Sunday's Times, but you need a sub to read it online, so here's a quote and link to the story elsewhere:

A leaked e-mail shows that the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) uses a ?Star and Tick? system to keep lucrative and easy cases in house and allocate ?messy? and costly cases to the independent bar, says the Bar Council.

A star would show that the case is either a ?high earner? or where the case would ?crack? in the favour of the CPS because it was weak or witnesses would be unlikely to turn up.

A tick would be made for cases that the CPS did not want to do based on it either being messy and troublesome or just being a low earner.

Maura LcGowan QC, Chairman of the Bar Council, said that ?The public interest demands that the correct advocate is instructed to prosecute a case based on skill and the complexity of the case. Today, we are able to show, with incontrovertible evidence that the CPS is deliberately acting against the public interest and the best people are not being used to prosecute serious crimes.?

Read more: www.economicvoice.com/crown-prosecution-service-acts-against-the-public-interest-says-bar-council/50035270#ixzz2M0n4NpGm

It's a system gone mad, where perspective and judgement vanishes, and real issues of public safety and justice are being sacrificed to a tick box system. We keep seeing this in hospitals, in social work this idea that the statistics are God, and to hell with the actual individuals on the ground. It needs to be challenged, across the board.

amillionyears · 26/02/2013 13:37

Awful.
There are a lot of serious allegations in that report.

amillionyears · 26/02/2013 13:38

Quite agree Whitehand.

amillionyears · 26/02/2013 13:39

Some systems in this country now stink.

LineRunner · 26/02/2013 19:50

Asked Keir Starmer about the data on rape allegations that were, basically, 'dropped', last time hew was on MN. It seemed that the data looked better because of too many No Further Actions to my naive eyes.

I think he fudged the answer.

blondieminx · 26/02/2013 20:14

LineRunner quite. Sad

Trekkie · 26/02/2013 22:21

It's on the BBC news at the moment, with reference to reid, warboys as well.

Glad this is on national news but FFS HOW MANY of these reports and investigations and officers being imprisoned for fucking it up do we have to have before they get their act together? Brian Paddick spoke of a report into rape investigation at the met back in the 00s or something which was watered down and then buried... It's been going on forever, it's one thing after another and it's enraging.

Met high up bloke just now "lessons learned blah" yeah like fuck forgive me if I don't hold my breath.

edam · 26/02/2013 22:53

It's beyond horrendous. Just this latest case alone - those poor children would very probably still be alive if their father had been prosecuted for rape. How many other cases are there where the Met have left rapists free to offend again - we know about Warboys and Reid, but how many other rapes have been wrongly, falsely recorded as 'no crime'?

Platitudes from middle management aren't enough. We need real root and branch reform - sweeping out officers who have been party to wrongdoing and taking real steps to show the force and every officer who works for it will actually take crime seriously and do their fecking jobs.

I doubt it's only the Met as well - there was an horrific case in Scotland I remember where the victim was very badly treated by the police - they made her strip for an examination with the door open amongst other things.

I was on one thread a while back where someone posted that her dh was a copper and told her 'most' complaints of rape were false. The poster believed her dh. Clearly didn't occur to her that maybe he was an example of what's going wrong - knee jerk hostility to rape victims from the police. No doubt she thinks her dh is a good guy.

Darkesteyes · 26/02/2013 23:46

edam i also clearly remember a poster on the Hillsborough thread last year who said her FIL was there and her FIL (ex police) insisted that the downright made up lies about the fans spitting/pissing were true (and this thread was last September when that report came out which proved BEYOND ALL DOUBT that the fans wernt lying and the poster in this case believed her FIL too.

LineRunner · 26/02/2013 23:52

Darkesteyes I remember that thread. Scary stuff.

SirEdmundFrillary · 27/02/2013 14:04

I agree - so many systems do stink and they need to be challenged. There is the attitude that people should put up and shut up.

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