I know it has been done to death

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bigbadbarry · 21/02/2013 23:30

It i just skimmed the first 4 pages and didn't find it :)
Having a "lighthearted" (or at least polite) discussion about (sorry) twilight on my Facebook page. Friend finds it very romantic "but I am not really a feminist so that is why it doesn't bug me". I am trying not to go all ranty on her but she has a daughter! I have said "How can you not be a feminist? You have a daughter? Do you think it is ok for her to grow up in a world where the primary thing that matters abut any woman is her appearance and whether she is sexy? To be paid less than men? To, let's see, feel she can't join the chess club because that us for boys? To be bombarded her whole life with pictures of scantily clad women and perfect princesses?"
Can anybody help me with the brilliant and pithy point that will convert her? (Or should I just go to sleep?!)

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bigbadbarry · 22/02/2013 07:38

Quite. Anybody watching me sleep would get short shrift! It was more her "not a feminist" statement I wanted to challenge...but I did (probably) the right thing and left it and went to bed!

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potatoprinter · 22/02/2013 08:03

I cannot believe grown women read the book. My DD read it when she was about 12 and dismissed Bella as one of the most pathetic female characters ever. I read the first few pages but it was so boring, I could read no further. DD2 felt the same way as me.

Unfortunately I think some women reject "feminism" because they see their only worth in being attractive to men and searching for the mythical perfect male. I think the only thing you can do is praise the daughter for things other than her looks or attractiveness and encourage her to get involved in intellectual and sporting pursuits.

When my DD2 was about 4 she watched a film - I think it was the Princess Bride - anyway there was a scene where the female characters boyfriend fights a bad guy telling her to stay back. The fight takes place in a room with swords and weapons displayed on the wall. DD2 could not understand why the princess could not grab a sword and fight too (not that I condone violence!). Even a young girl could see this was sexist twaddle.
Anyway I think "feminist" views are something you have to come to yourself. If your friend is so dim that she thinks Twilight is great there is probably little hope for her.

pinkyredrose · 22/02/2013 09:41

I attempted to watch Twilight Eclipse last night and Ed Cullen just came across as a controlling stalker.

TerrariaMum · 22/02/2013 15:10

This has also been done to death but it is hilarious. Show your friend this

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bigbadbarry · 22/02/2013 15:33

Oh yes, love that :) Buffy was great. TBH if she likes twilight that is up to her - I have tried but she doesn't get it. I have millions of friends who think it is romantic: one thought it was a great book for her 11 year old to read. But saying she is not a feminist riled me for its ignorance and it is kin dof that bit I wanted help with. I didn't put the reply I typed out above, decided just to leave it be. But I am looking at her through new (narrowed) eyes now.

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