Why Porn Industry Ignores Calls for use of Condoms

[EatsBrainsAndLeaves]

Just been reading an interesting Guardian article where feminist writer Gail Dines explains why the porn industry will always ignore calls to allow porn actors to use condoms.

www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/aug/28/porn-syphilis-money-shot-condoms

I was interested to hear otherw omen's views here on this?

Oh GOD it is just so horrible. :(

Gail Dines is great at exposing the realities of the porn industry. She has been on hundreds of porn sets. And remember the ones she gets access to are the "respectable" ones. There will be much worse ones in reality.

Facial cumshots were never going to go away quietly. There has been a treadmill of increasing extremity since 1960 in the "mainstream" (i.e. legal or at least not frequently prosecuted) business; big budget porn is run by misogynists so getting them to stop will be tough, if anything they'll move to another state without a condom law that will be glad of their tax money should California get strict. I don't see this becoming a federal issue.

Also the practise of referring to the semen as scum/goo/slop/slime/filth etc. in order to make it sound like women are being pelted with or made to swallow some sort of toxic waste is one of the forms of misogyny that is common. There's even a film called "ToXXXic Cumloads" for fuck's sake.

The sort of perversion and exploitation which goes on throughout the "regulated" sex industry beggars belief. It can't really get any worse. I believe that if commercial porn production is criminalised (as it should be) many of the big names will join in the current underground industry (paedophilia/bestiality/blatant rape) and openly use children in their films. One Max Hardcore film sold legally in the US and much of Europe but banned here includes a barely -legal actress pretending to be ELEVEN and the men penetrating her talk about sex with her 7-year-old sister. If they don't have the option of getting away with open exploitation of women aged 18 and up it's a simple leap to real 11 and 7 year olds.

I know I shouldn't have done it ... but I read the comments. Why is CiF so stuffed with misogynists?

Thanks for posting this.

Dines hit the nail on the head with this Condoms mean that she matters, and porn is all about her not mattering.

This is just truly awful:

Bill Margold, who is quoted as saying: "The most violent we can get is the cum shot in the face. Men get off behind that, because they get even with the women they can't have.

The more I read that line, the more depressed I get. 'Get even'? WTAF

"Gail Dines is great at exposing the realities of the porn industry. She has been on hundreds of porn sets. And remember the ones she gets access to are the "respectable" ones. There will be much worse ones in reality."

wow! could she recommend some good ones?

Golden Me too. I've occasionally recognised that kind of sentiment in people I know irl and in internet attacks on celebrities via Twitter etc. An argument against a woman typically takes on a sexual element or comments on her appearance and insults reduce her to a collection of body parts. Usually involvesinadequates who presumably watch a lot of porn but this doesn't seem to happen to men. Disturbing isn't it?

link to article

That article has just prompted me to start a thread about my
DH. He grew up on porn and asks to cum on my face amongst other things you only see in porn. I really really hate how porn conditions men to hate women, he is a wonderful man who doesn't know how to respect a woman during sex because of porn. I hate it.

Oh that's all pretty horrible and disgusting - is all porn like that or is some of it just normal love-making? When people I know say they like to watch porn, they aren't all watching this kind of thing, are they??

The level of mysogyny is so utterly depressing.

Erm, condom use in porn films does happen. Most of the high-end Vivid or Wicked Pictures films feature the use of condoms. Most 'money shot' ejaculations are over a woman's buttocks or breasts, which is relatively safe and some women like it anyway. The convention of the cumshot is more about displaying the man's orgasm than 'degrading' the woman by splattering her with semen (never mind what one bloke says to a reporter to keep the reporter happily scandalized). This is just more Gail Dines confusing anecdote with data and peddling her own Eek Yuk Arrgh Willies are Horrible agenda.

the sex industry as a whole is disgusting and it always seems to be women who get the crap end (literally by the sounds of it!) of the stick. Its depressing and degrading

Beesknees: This simply isn't true. Lots of people find various aspects of the sex industry fun and rewarding and life-affirming. While the performance sector has problems in terms of performer exploitation, people are working to improve the situation.

What could be interesting is to find out WHY this sort of thing is so popular? What is it in our culture that creates such mysogyny?

H watches porn and am not sure how extreme it is atm, but the fact (urban legend?) that many of the performers were abused as children really doesn't sit well with me either, as well as the employee/employer/profit relationship and the content.

I just wonder where the days of Penthouse went and how things are just getting more and more extreme, or whether the more shady elements of the industry are just more accessible now due to developments in the media and technology.

Just makes me so sad. I know of a significant minority of men who just seem to view their female partners as the enemy

rewarding and life affirming??? being a porn star?? erm okay.....