Please don't flame me, realise I am late to this, re: 50shades

[ElephantsCanRemember]

Ok I very seldom post on FWR boards, I don't have the language or understanding that many of you do. But I read it all.

With the threads about 50shdaes, I have read them, and I get it, I agree with it.

This is probably a really stupid post because it combines 50shades with facebook. But I am really sick of reading the comments about it from people .

I really want to post a reply (on my own page, not to any one person in particular) this is what I had typed out:

"Sorry but I have to say this. The book is about a disturbed man who wants to punish his mum by abusing his wife/girlfriend/sub. I don't understand why everyone is raving about this. It is badly written, so badly written, it advocates abuse and tbh gives the impression that a woman being submissive will solve a mans problems. Absolute bollocks. If people enjoy literary erotica then there are a great many more books out there to read than one which promotes such myths."

It is crap isn't it? I am trying to say something yet I don't have the right words/intelligence to do it. No reason that I have to post anything except my feeling that I want to.

Sorry, this thread probably doesn't make much sense. Not quite sure what I am asking.

Do you feel so strongly that you must broadcast your opinion to everyone, even those who are not talking about it?

If you do, you'd probably be best actually saying what book you are talking about in the post.

Yes you're right . And that is probably one reason why I should keep my opinions to myself, crap at explaining myself.

Oh, and from what I've seen of it (not read all 3 books) "a woman being submissive" does not solve a man's problems.

It's more of an issue that

1 - it suggests that someone would only be into that kind of thing if they had problems.

2 - it encourages the idea of "fixing" a man who is damaged

I agree with you wholeheartedly. It's a total pile of shit. I got half way through the first book and gave up, couldn't read anymore. I felt very uncomfortable with the submissive theme and it is SO badly written. My 'friends' all think I'm being snobby by refusing to read it but I really couldn't care less!

Please go ahead and post this, and do use the name of the book.
There is not enough backlash in the media.
It's appalling.

I don't think I have the intelligence to say it properly. I didn't even mention the title in my thread ffs, how thick I am.
I guess, the people who are posting these thoughts are people I am "lumped" in with and I didn't want anyone to assume I agreed. Plus it seems fashionable to agree with it and I wanted to show (in a much more coherent and intelligent way than I am showing here) that it is ok to think it is a pile of shite.

Thanks Lemarch I have been up since 4am and you know when you see yet another post on FB and you feel at the end of your tether with it?
Sadly I don't think I would get many likes, probably more people telling me what a prude I am. With other stuff going on, I am not sure I am ready to argue against that.
Sorry, realise it is a bit of a non thread, like I said, I have been up for hours now and was just putting thoughts down on paper in print. Thanks anyway.

Elephants, you mentioned the book in your thread title. Take out the sorry and next time you see someone mooning over mr grey write it.

I can't understand why more people aren't disturbed by the book and challenging it particularly as trills said point 2 the idea of reforming a (violent) man.

You come across as intelligent not prudey!

Do you know what Alurk that has just made me cry. It has been a long time since anyone has called me intelligent. Thankyou.

Its a great post, don't be so down on yourself.
I haven't read the book and never will, I can't stand the hype and am shocked at how lemming like so many women are. (Particularly people who claim its the only book they've ever read! WTF) However I have been quite heartened by the amount of my friends who haven't read it and delighted when a few have expressed similar thoughts to you! My Mum is one the main haters of this book (also not actually read it) and I love her for it!

Don't be so down on yourself OP. I haven't read past the first page of Shades, so can't comment on your review of it (although it summed up the small amount I read well) but there is absolutely nothing wrong with what you have written. It isn't crap at all. Post away.

P.s. have you seen the crap that gets posted on FB? Even if your post was crap, you wouldn't be alone!

Elephants, what you've written is just fine. It's better it comes from you that is 'theoretically perfect' and what you've put is not way off base at all anyway.

Please lose the sorry though. And never ever apologise for having an opinion again. Expressing your opinion is a wonderful thing to be doing. And giving a counter to all the crap that gets spouted about 50 shites is an important thing to do. You'll make some people think, even if they never admit it.

And also if you get some wah wah shite back, it's totally ok to step away from it and just not engage. Too many sleepless nights taught me that one.

Some one posted this on FB which I think says it all!

great 50 shades review

Aw thankyou all. I seem to have the lost the ability to have confidence of my own opinions and speak out about them. You are all very kind, I know it wasn't the best worded OP, but you still got what I meant. Thanks again.

Totally got you! and I'm another one saying that you should never apologise for your opinion especially when you are right

And I have had the same set of crap posted on FB too!!!

Would you stop putting yourself down woman!

You made perfect sense right from the start, and I am loving the rants about Shades of Grey that keep popping up on facebook. It is such a pile of drivel, that book, I've tried to read it and had to give up for sniggering and/or wanting to roll my eyes so hard they fall out.

Elephants, your post was perfectly articulate. Opinions are good

50 SoG - Snarky chapter by chapter dissection

jenniferarmintrout.blogspot.co.uk/p/jen-reads-50-shades-of-grey.html

Elephants, your opinion of the book is very clear and expressed perfectly. I have just started reading it because someone gave me a copy but I expect my view will be very similar to yours.

Elephants, there's a fb page called 50 shades of abuse. And an interesting article that I'll link in a minute.

(btw passion is sometimes more powerful than intellect - not that I think yours is lacking in any way...)