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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Living doll

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TeacupTempest · 30/04/2012 11:19

Apparently the latest fashion trend in make up (as seen on Kate Moss) is to look like a "living doll."

I cannot find the words to explain to DH why this makes me so cross. Well I can but I just despair really.

Living doll ffs!

(I really should not watch daytime TV)

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AnyFucker · 30/04/2012 11:23

I saw that

I thought it just looked like ordinary make up

I get what you are saying about the connotations of the phraseology though

TeacupTempest · 30/04/2012 11:31

Yes the make up itself was fine. It is definitely the connotations I have a problem with and the suggestion that women should try/want to emulate an inanimate, empty doll.

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WorriedBetty · 30/04/2012 11:35

The idea is not new lol [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BObvfDkOclw&feature=related TheoneandonlyCLIFFRICHARD]

WorriedBetty · 30/04/2012 11:35

hmmm

SeaHouses · 30/04/2012 11:36

I've not seen anything about Kate Moss doing it, but when younger teenagers do it, they don't actually look like dolls. It just looks a bit Japanese manga inspired or that teen look which I think might be called 'scene', and makes the teenagers look young.

But then teenagers are young, and the makeup style emphasises that, when we're used to teenagers using a makeup style that makes them look like adults. So I'm not sure it is any worse than any other kind of makeup, although the name is irritating.

WorriedBetty · 30/04/2012 11:36

Anyway I think it is Kate Middleton that is doing this... lol

TeacupTempest · 30/04/2012 11:44

I have seen that too but this wasn't manga style for young people. It was ordinary make up aimed at adult women. Just the the look they were trying to achieve was doll like, with rosy cheeks and fake eyelashes and so on.

The make up itself was fairly inoffensive but I found the suggestion of the ideal infuriating.

They could have used "fresh faced" or "healthy glow" as descriptions of the look but they chose "living doll."

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EldritchCleavage · 30/04/2012 14:14

Lancome advertises a mascara as giving you 'doll eyes', which made me cringe. Now young women are actually supposed to aaspire to looking like things, not humans?

EldritchCleavage · 30/04/2012 14:15

'aspire', sorry.

SardineQueen · 30/04/2012 14:23

Just reminds me of Cliff

BusinessTrills · 30/04/2012 14:40

I blame Cliff Richard

BusinessTrills · 30/04/2012 14:41

"Fresh faced" wouldn't be the same thing though, would it?

To my mind "living doll" suggests completely one-coloured skin with no freckles or moles or features at all, just a blank canvas. "Fresh-faced" skin would have more variety and tone to it.

WorriedBetty · 30/04/2012 16:25

Plastic-faced wld be better

msrisotto · 30/04/2012 18:12

I think that people/women are being phased out of media completely. Airbrushing makes skin look plastic, auto tune makes voices sound robotic. Genuine human similarity is so last decade.

FruitSaladIsNotPudding · 03/05/2012 14:24

It only works as a 'look' if the girl/woman is totally stationary and posed - as soon as they move or talk or laugh it is ruined - which is the worst part of it for me. As msrisotto says, they look like objects, not human beings.

slug · 03/05/2012 14:50

I just discovered this

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