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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

I'm hated because I'm pretty!

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StarlightMcEggsie · 03/04/2012 11:16

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2124246/Samantha-Brick-downsides-looking-pretty-Why-women-hate-beautiful.html

Really?

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StarlightMcEggsie · 03/04/2012 15:56

NYac, isn't this article a feminist issue then?

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solidgoldbrass · 03/04/2012 15:59

Well it can be difficult to be a pretty woman. I've got some very pretty friends, but generally they've complained less about other women being cowbags than they have mentioned the aggravation of men regarding them as public property/prey. Remember those threads about how irritating it is when you're out having a drink or meal alone or with another woman and there's a man or group of men who won't fucking leave you alone? For pretty or beautiful women it can be a regular occurrence and it;s not fun, not food to the ego, just infuriating.

amillionyears · 03/04/2012 16:05

When people say "they must be jealous of me" it seems to be their last words in defence of their bad behaviour.

Nyac · 03/04/2012 16:05

It is Starlight. It was more "oh hell, what do you say to that?".

Whoever said click on her other articles gave good advice. They're hair raising. She needs to come here and post in the Relationships section.

Tryharder · 03/04/2012 16:06

Well, in 1989, a bloke came up to me in a disco in Hamburg and said I was the most beautiful woman in the world. And in 2001 (I think), the man sitting next to me and my friend's table paid the bill for us (although admittedly, he may have fancied my friend). And I got told I was the best looking woman where we worked by a colleague in 1999. And the other day, my colleague said my photo in my staff badge was really nice. Bless him.

I should've written this article, really. FFS.

What a load of crap. From the title, I was expecting Angelina Jolie crossed with Elle McPherson not a bog standard slim, pretty woman. The husband's a minger though Wink

Tryharder · 03/04/2012 16:14

Agree with SolidGoldBrass, really. I was very pretty in my late teens/early 20s - pretty face, blonde, clear skin, 5'9 weighed 9.5 stones. I got a lot of hostility and nastiness from men, never from women. I could never understand why the men were so nasty. And I got a lot of attention from awful, creepy men, never the nice ones.

If I could choose my looks, I would be average height, average build, friendly looking, girl next door.

FWIW and before anyway says i am boasting, I am 41 now, somewhat overweight, no-one looks twice and I get no negative attention at all. It's great.

TheCrackFox · 03/04/2012 16:15

I feel her pain.

Women hate me and men want to be with me. I am very stoic about my lot in life.

amillionyears · 03/04/2012 16:23

Ive never questioned before why newspaper articles such as these are written.I must be naive. There are 2000+ comments in the comments box.

Conchita · 03/04/2012 16:24

[shuffles over from cynics' corner]
She's a journalist, times are hard and a newspaper are actually paying her to write this crap. So I think she is embellishing or making sh*t up in order to get commissioned. Beats going down the mines I suppose

bigpigeon · 03/04/2012 16:38

They are doing more and more crap articles designed to inflame people into responding. If you look at the more balanced articles (are there any in the mail?) they have hardly any comments but they know they can rile people up and probably think this brings more interest in their rag.

minimathsmouse · 03/04/2012 16:48

Maybe we shouldn't take what she says too literally. In one piece she says her husband dresses her, in another she dresses herself down in plain clothes.

Other anomalies include, husband to divorce her if she gets fat, she won't eat because she was once fat.

Another, she says that she won't get pregnant because that will make her fat and then in a different piece says she is trying for a baby.

She is either writing toot because they commission her to write toot or she is disingenuous and deluded.

Conchita · 03/04/2012 16:51

Sadly 'I am happy woman who does not have any body issues, relationship problems or gnawing doubts about mixing a career with a family' does not sell!

SmellsLikeTeenStrop · 03/04/2012 17:00

''She is either writing toot because they commission her to write toot''

This is where I would place my money. She's one of their freelancers who can be guaranteed to whip up an article which is slightly controversial just to get website hits, as was pointed out earlier.

There's another, a woman who every so often churns out an article on how rubbish state schools are and how she and her DH are bankrupting themselves to put 2 of their 4 children in private schools, and how guilty they feel that they can't put all their kids in private school.

CheerfulYank · 03/04/2012 17:07

I've never seen anyone with the same surname as me before. How odd.

Anyway, wow. I just...hmm. Well. She's not ugly of course, but I wouldn't look twice at her. Of course, some people do just have a natural attractiveness about them that doesn't translate to photos and she could be one.

I do have a beautiful friend (far, far prettier than Ms Brick) and she has occasionally experienced stand-offish behavior from other women, and disgusting comments from men. But she's so happy and cheerful that she soon wins everyone over, and as for the men...well, she has a sharp tongue and a large husband. :)

amillionyears · 03/04/2012 18:01

Wow, thank you MN people for opening my eyes.

amillionyears · 03/04/2012 18:04

Is she living in France? In which case, I would have thought the stuff she is able to write about in the DM would be more limited than if she lived in the UK??

minimathsmouse · 03/04/2012 18:18

I used to read the mail , online is just dire though, nothing other than stories about women's clothes, bodies, relationships, it's depressing stuff.

Conchita, must be right, this nonsense sells and that is really worrying. Women having their minds messed up reading about celebs in swimsuits. It's a clear case of the patriarchy controlling the press and flogging the idea that all women's lives are lacking in some way. Usually in a way that plastic surgery, clothing and cosmetics etc, can improve it, any way in which money can be made.

LadyClariceCannockMonty · 03/04/2012 18:27

Does anyone else think her husband looks, in both of those pics, as if he's holding on to or reaching for her a bit weirdly? Not affectionately but proprietorially and bossily, a bit like he's holding a dog's collar.

He also looks like the mugshot they print in the tabloids when someone's been apprehended after committing a horrid and perverted crime

gabsid · 03/04/2012 18:27

She is attractive - yes
In her mid 30? (could't bring myself to read the whole article). Not an age where women are at their prettiest, at their best and most attractive maybe, but not at their prettiest.

To me she seems one of millions of attractive women and I am wondering why this article was written/published.

I feel like in a parallel universe Confused

KalSkirata · 03/04/2012 19:04

Im shedding a tiny tear for her tragic life
But blimey thats a badly written article. And she gets paid for this shite?

BoffinMum · 03/04/2012 19:19

TBH I've barely bought a drink in my entire life, and it wouldn't occur to me to write about it!

Hopefullyrecovering · 03/04/2012 19:25

I hope they paid her a lot for that article. If people didn't want to talk to her before, I can imagine no-one EVER wanting to talk to her again.

wamster · 03/04/2012 19:50

Waah, been waiting a million years to quote Ms Julie Burchill but she is right. To paraphrase (OK, not quote exactly) a woman who has nothing interesting about her past 40, is asking for trouble as looks fade. And some people think she talks nonsense? Not me

Still,though, that I'm symmetrical, doncha know? Grin. Oh yes, like a rectangle.

MizK · 03/04/2012 20:19

That article held a terrible fascination for me, I admit. I always read her bizarre work, a fact of which I am rightly ashamed.

My first reaction was laughter when I saw, after the attention grabbing headline, who had written it - this woman will write ANYTHING to get into the DM. I remember one article in which she'd written about dressing to impress other women, not to get male attention. Then she had written a separate piece about how she always used her sex appeal to further her career by making her male bosses fancy her.
It is so boring to hear about the supposed trouble looks bring to pretty people. It simply isn't true. Any disadvantages - pervy men, the very occasional bitchy comment from other women, is offset by the fact that people are generally appreciative of attractive people.
If she truly can't wait for her 'beauty' to fade, why all the makeup and styling? It's ludicrous.
From a feminist perspective, I wonder why she can't write about something more interesting that doesn't reduce women to either 'pretty' or 'ugly and jealous'.

Sausageeggbacon · 03/04/2012 20:32

I can't understand why she wants the attention, when I was younger I use to wear thick jumpers to hide myself because if I wore a t-shirt men would automatically start talking at my breasts. 3 Children later it has't improved just I am older and wiser. So what if guys do these things, what does it say about the person that accepts that sort of treatment.

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