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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Home office makes an excellent video about rape for young people

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Dworkin · 05/03/2012 09:21

Trigger warning obviously. Here:

miss-s-b.dreamwidth.org/1217557.html

There are two videos, both worth watching; and the message is aimed at both boys and girls. I hope this goes out to every secondary school in the country.

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Archemedes · 05/03/2012 09:32

its similar to those about that bf/gf with domestic violence , again good looking teenagers.

I didn't particularly like this advert as it was again 'pretty slim girl gets abused'
just my 2 cents.

I think with run of the mill looking or even older people it would hit a different note. IYSWIM.

Archemedes · 05/03/2012 11:56

Oops I seem to have thread killed , I apologise.

blackcurrants · 05/03/2012 12:16

I think it's brilliant. As for "pretty slim girl gets abused" - well, pretty, slim girls exist, they are sexually active in school, and boys and men rape them - so while I always wish there were people less 'attractive looking' on tv, in this instance I didn't watch this thinking "this is unbelievable" - I watched it thinking "she looks like a girl from my school."

If they were ugly teens, it could easily slip into standard apologism "well only ugly boys rape, because they, like, have to." or "Ugly girl gets raped, well she should be grateful, LOL!" - I don't think the fact that they are conventionally attractive/nice looking is a huge distraction from the message.
I like the way they filmed it, as the scenario is one that a lot of people would recognize as the first time they had sex, or a time they were assaulted. Ithink it's got some good choices, for example that she says no and stop verbally and non-verbally, that he hears her say no, and that he basically ignores what she wants/feels. I think it's a powerful message.

Dworkin · 05/03/2012 12:17

The message is aimed at boys to make it clear to them that coercion, leading to penetration, is rape. I think this message is strong and clear.

The message to girls isn't so clear. It supposed to be about empowerment - I told him to say no but he didn't. However, in this situation, it doesn't give possible outcomes if she had been more assured in her NO response. It could have meant he stopped or it could have meant he got nastier.

Perhaps the message to young girls is not to go into a room alone with a boy?

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Dworkin · 05/03/2012 12:19

However, it would be excellent if young people in secondary school saw this and then debated the issues for themselves.

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blackcurrants · 05/03/2012 12:34

certainly - this was an issue that we just weren't discussing in secondary school during the nineties - it would have been great if this had been available to us.

it's rare that I see something aimed at teenagers now and think "Wow, that would have helped me and my friends. I wish we'd had that." but it was my first reaction to that video.

Archemedes · 05/03/2012 12:41

It was just quite stylised and looked a bit like a scene out of hollyoaks or something,
wheres the videos for the poor , scruffy vulnerable looking teen who's exploited by older boys/men. Which never seems to be shown and it happens alot.

I think it should be shown purely for the reason so many people think'no-one would rape her she's ugly' 'she should be grateful' to challenge that.
I think the realer it looks the more impact it has.

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