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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

What is going on in their heads?

26 replies

WidowWadman · 13/02/2012 09:22

www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/horrible-reactions-to-chris-brown-at-the-grammys

I just really don't get it.

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WidowWadman · 13/02/2012 09:22

www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/horrible-reactions-to-chris-brown-at-the-grammys

Sorry, linkified it now.

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DefiniteMaybe · 13/02/2012 09:26

Idiots. Complete and utter idiots.

SilentBoob · 13/02/2012 09:29

Depressing.

Selky · 13/02/2012 09:31

Good grief.

roughtyping · 13/02/2012 09:34

Idiots. That's really horrible. :(

StarsAndBoulevards · 13/02/2012 09:37

That's disturbing to say the least. :(

People who say stuff like that should be made to volunteer for a DV charity. See what it does to people. Then apologise to every victim they come across for being such a fucking arsewipe.

BasilRathbone · 13/02/2012 11:30

Well they're just not that bright, are they?

Lacking in empathy, stupid and inexperienced.

Chances are in 20 years, they will be older and wiser. And one in four of them, will have experienced the reality of what DV is and will either still be as stupid and self-hating as they are now, imagining that being punched by Chris Brown or someone else good looking will have felt better than being punched by the abuser who actually did it, or have found some dignity and know that no matter how good-looking your abuser is, having your very self ground down and being punched in the face, really doesn't feel that good.

tribpot · 13/02/2012 11:35

What a shame he didn't meet one of them before he reformed and gave up his violent ways Hmm

JuliaScurr · 13/02/2012 11:42

One in four will probably change their minds on this AngrySad

sunshineandbooks · 13/02/2012 11:55

I think it's a worrying trend symptomatic of an increase of DV among teens and young adults. Current pop culture (think Rihanna, Eminem, lyrics using words like 'bitch' and 'ho' common in R'n'B, and even Maroon 5 - they've all served to glamourise DV, portraying it as an extension of passion and therefore almost desirable. At the same time it becomes normalised and acceptable. Very sad. More focus needs to be placed on the accompanying mental abuse, which is far harder to make glamorous.

KRITIQ · 13/02/2012 14:22

I think sunshine has got it in one. Abusive, controlling relationships are peddled as exciting, glamorous and sexy, almost aspirational through music videos, films books (e.g. Twilight series,) and when life imitates art in the form of celebrities being in real life abusive relationships, it just reinforces it all.

It's likely that none of these young women have been at the sharp end of a an abusive, controlling relationship, or if they have, they've swallowed the whole line about how they should feel "special" because a man is jealous, possessive, takes charge, and all that baloney.

They possibly also believe this is what they are supposed to say and think, to be accepted, to be popular, to be regarded like those abused and controlled fictional and real-life heroines. They are playing by the rules of "the game" that says that the main purpose for women is being attractive, passive, sexually available, compliant and putting men and their needs centre stage at all time. Dissing other girls and women is one way of reinforcing this.

It's yet another example of that Choice Fallacy.

BasilRathbone · 13/02/2012 14:39

Yes it is partly that thing of wanting to line up with the winners isn't it, not be on the loser's side.

Dispiriting.

PamBeesly · 13/02/2012 15:05

How vile, and how vile he is. Vile vile man

rosy71 · 13/02/2012 15:23

How depressing. I'm obviously missing something though; who is Chris Brown???

JuliaScurr · 13/02/2012 15:50

rosy 'Who is Chris Brown?'
Quite.

KRITIQ · 13/02/2012 15:50

Chris Brown is a singer and former partner of the singer Rihanna. He was arrested for physically assaulting her about 3 years ago.

WARNING - article and image below may be triggering (content domestic abuse, assault.)

There is a story about what happened here and an image of Rihanna after the attack here.

ledkr · 13/02/2012 16:09

This is so annoying and upsetting,i wonder if they could joke about it if they had been truly terrified for theirs and their kids lives in their own homes like me some people. Who is responsible for these young womens attitudes?

My dh e mailed i xtra and suggested they stop playing Chris Brown songs as they had an impresionable young audience.I was very proud of him.

They took no notice of course.

AThingInYourLife · 13/02/2012 16:31
Shock

:(

I can't believe they would write that. It's so messed up.

How are we to raise girls (or boys for that matter) in a culture that tells them that being beaten up by your boyfriend is something you should welcome?

Gosh, that is not what I expected the responses mentioned in the OP to be.

WidowWadman · 13/02/2012 17:41

Well, yes, it's a lot in pop culture - I remember feeling a bit sick at the "Edward can bruise me any time" meme going around a while ago.

I just hope I can raise my children to have more self-worth than that

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sportsfanatic · 13/02/2012 21:08

These silly women make me sick.

FYP · 13/02/2012 21:12

That is so unbelievably sad Sad

Archemedes · 14/02/2012 13:36

Tbh they're just young morons one day they will look back and cringe.

Jolyonsmummy · 15/02/2012 20:19

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BasilRathbone · 15/02/2012 22:51

This is so depressingly predictable

solidgoldbrass · 16/02/2012 01:17

I note from that article that one of those women, having grown up around DV, intended her tweet to be an example of black humour rather than a serious message of support to the wifebeating asshat.
But of course women aren't supposed to 'get' black humour or irony or anything like that, and if they try to be funny, which is something only men are allowed to do, well the best they can expect is to be assaulted.
Arrgh.

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