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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

what brings you 'here'?

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bejeezus · 01/02/2012 14:36

hello, Ive been posting mostly in Relationships and AIBU so far. I have started threads recently which started off as being about; 'Women who get on better with men' and 'the messages within fairytales'. Also been posting in a thread about the 'Relationship' board being full of misandry.

The cumulative effect of these have lead me to the shocking realisation that some women have misogynistic views. I always thought I was pretty much apathetic and my views about womens rights were middle of the roadish. But I think,actually I might be a feminist! If Im not, then I want to be please.

Im nearly 40; am I too old? will I get run out of town for being the most bimbling/unread/foot in mouth 40 year old born again feminist? I thought people realised this about themselves in their 20s? I was too busy saboutaging fox hunts in my 20s to be thinking about women.

So, how did your femisinist POVs evolve?

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WidowWadman · 03/02/2012 15:30

Why should the person who identifies herself as a woman and lives as a woman be asked to share the status of her genitals?

CatherineMacauley · 03/02/2012 16:12

Because they exist WW. Sadly for the imaginary person being described, but they do. They cannot be wished away and neither can the emotional upset that might be caused to other women if they are seen by accident.

I agree is it is unfair for the MTF. This is not their fault. But neither is it the fault of the imaginary women in the shelter either.

But I would say again that I would expect them to understand. If they don't want to go to a male shelter, they must also understand why a male body in a female shelter could be so traumatic.

A solution must be found that avoids placing anyone in a traumatic situation.

CatherineMacauley · 03/02/2012 16:17

As usual, that doesn't read right and if I were more capable I would use the preview feature.

Meant to say that, placing a MTF in a shelter which describes itself as exclusively female is unfair to the women in the shelter.

But that I agree that it is unfair that the MTF has no where to go.

Sorry for being unclear.

Cybermob · 07/02/2012 19:54

I'm new here, have only been reading for a short while and still trying to understand the lingo. Hopefully I will make myself understood too. English isn't my first language so my grammar might not be right all the time, although I'm right about everything else! Wink

I'm in my late 40s and have been a feminist all my adult life. I'm a radical feminist (not the fun kind, as Dworkin said) and do believe that 'the patriarchy' exists, and I intend to fight it.

TBE · 07/02/2012 20:18

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munkysea · 07/02/2012 21:00

I realised I was a feminist when I went to university and met more people from different background, then developed it more when I started to work for a living.

bejeezus · 07/02/2012 21:04

What's the difference between a 'radical feminist' and a plain old feminist? Obviously the former is more devout/hardcore, but are there kind of defining principles/beliefs?

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TBE · 07/02/2012 22:33

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Cybermob · 08/02/2012 00:10

The radical part of radical feminism is often confused with being militant. It can be, but not necessarily. I've been described as militant, I take that as a compliment.

bejeezus · 08/02/2012 12:37

oh ok- i had misunderstood 'radical' as being more extreme

havent finished reading the whole article. But it would seem I have some radical ND soem liberal views

I struggle with hijabs...what is the radical stance on them? (or is this a stupid question- and it is individual). I see so many strong women choosing to wear them, I feel in a way they are 'reclaimed'? Like the N word in some ways? (although im not sure how I feel about that neither!)

my daughter chooses to wear one sometimes. Its not our religion but she is a child exploring and being influenced by her peers. I have explained in simple terms, the history of them

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