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Sarah Harding- domestic violence

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Victorialucas · 05/01/2012 12:17

Just heard this on 'this morning'- the way they were talking about it made it seem like they were equally in the wrong, even though she's the one who ended up in hospital.

www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/4039996/Girls-Aloud-Sarah-Harding-Theo-De-Vries-got-me-by-the-throat.html

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sunshineandbooks · 06/01/2012 20:51

Snorbs I don't have a link to back-up thunderbolts post, but I do know that the Home Office includes same-sex relationships when looking at victims of DV.

Also (though in all honesty the sample size is too small to be meaningful) this: Research in Scotland, re-tracing men who were counted as victims in the Scottish Crime Survey, found that a majority of the men who said that they were victims of domestic violence, were also perpetrators of violence (13 of 22). A significant number of the men re-interviewed (13 out of 46) later said they had actually never experienced any form of domestic abuse (Scottish Executive Central Research Unit, 2002).

False allegations by woman accusing men of DV is the same as most other false allegations of crime, about 10%, which suggests that men make twice as many false allegations as women, which further reduces the level of male victims. Add in male abusers of male victims and then it seems that female-to-male violence is even less, reinforcing the idea that men are by far the more violent gender in relationships.

Personally, I think it's all bollocks. It's an awful crime regardless of whether it's a male or a female victim. Even if it were equal by gender, what then? Do we then say that because it's not a gendered crime it doesn't matter? Of course not, so why is all this time wasted trying to prove that men have it just as bad?Why not just send an unequivocal message that it is wrong by prosecuting the perpetrators who are, overwhelmingly male, because that will ultimately have the effect of benefitting male victims too.

BoneyBackJefferson · 06/01/2012 21:51

"statistics have shown that lesbian people experience domestic violence at a very similar rate to that of heterosexual women (Waldner-Haygrud, 1997; AVP, 1992). It has been estimated that between 17-45% of lesbians have been the victim of at least one act of violence perpetrated by a female partner (Burke et al, 1999; Lie et al, 1991),"

from pandora's project
www.pandys.org/articles/lesbiandomesticviolence.html

NeedlesCuties · 12/01/2012 11:19

I think an important issue is what is going to happen to her next? Will she be hounded by media while she's still clearly in a very emotionally vulnerable state, or will she be given support and time to get her head sorted?

There are many interesting points on this thread, but at the end of the day, none of us were there so we'll never know what actually happened.

DV being highlighted by the media can be a positive thing for the public, if handled and reported with sensitivity. But finger pointing from papers and 'he said she said' reports don't do much to inspire confidence.

Can't say I follow her career much, but I do wish her all the best.

SMacLyons · 15/01/2012 08:26

I'm not saying nothing happened to Sarah, but having been a victim myself of domestic abuse and violence, all I can say is, the last thing I personally would have done would have been broadcast it and splash photographs of myself relaying the story to a complete stranger. Poor Sarah I think is in a very messed up place and this, harsh as it sounds, strikes me of a bit of a sympathy vote. The girl really needs more help :-(

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