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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Oh Shit. I have to side with Nadine Dorries.

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NarkyPuffinLovesDiane · 07/09/2011 14:50

Cameron at PMQs responding to a question by her 'Cameron started laughing after telling Dorries that he knew she was "extremely frustrated".

Provoking MPs' schoolboy mirth at the hint of an innuendo to the female MP, the prime minister joked: "Maybe I should start all over again."

Pausing again, he finally said: "I'm going to give up on this one," and put his hand on the arm of an equally amused Clegg as he set down next to his Lib Dem deputy.'

Arse.

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Voidka · 07/09/2011 16:58

I looks like it could have been an innocent remark (remembering a time I told a blind man on the train to look out Blush). But he acted very badly afterwards by dismissing her as someone thats beneath him.

I cant believe she flounced.

NormaSnorks · 07/09/2011 16:59

I think the media are just shit-stirring on this one with reports that she 'stormed out'. Why then does she laugh too when Cameron says "I know she is clearly frustrated"?

FFS - it's so clearly one of those occasions when everything gets misconstrued, and whatever Cameron had said next wasn't going to be heard with any seriousness, which is why he presumably decided to give up.

I don't see it a deliberate, sexist behaviour at all on Cameron's part. If anyone's to blame, it's the titillated MPs around him.....

LRDTheFeministDragon · 07/09/2011 17:01

I thought she sounded like an idiot asking that question. And I think she's a deeply unpleasant character. But his reaction was disgusting and IMO, it is worse coming from the PM. I don't think he corpsed - watching it, it looked to me as if he knew exactly what he was going to say, the way he tailed off to give room for a big laugh. Nasty.

Voidka · 07/09/2011 17:02

I do take some comfort from the fact that even DC thinks she is batty.

Alibabaandthe80nappies · 07/09/2011 17:04

I don't think his reaction was disgusting at all. It looked like an accidental remark to me. She was laughing, where is the problem?

wonkylegs · 07/09/2011 17:06

I couldn't side with either of them
They are both contemptible prats

Malcontentinthemiddle · 07/09/2011 17:06

Yes, he tailed off like when comedians go 'aaaaaah' to indicate it's time for you to laugh.

LRDTheFeministDragon · 07/09/2011 17:07

Ali - if he'd accidentally said something racist to a black or asian MP, would it have been ok for him to laugh and then refuse to answer their question?

ThePerfectShitStorm · 07/09/2011 17:59

I've just seen this. Much as I'm glad Dorries' reform proposals have been rejected, her subjection to this juvenile wanker behaviour should have no place in modern politics.

TBH, I expect this type of behaviour from the fatuous schoolboy Tory elite. But once again, Clegg has shown his true colours and his neediness to be in with the big bully boys by playing along with this.

I'm also pissed off with the "Guardian" headline on this, describing Dorries as having "stormed out" of PMQs. That phrase has all the connotations of "hysterical little woman" imo.

NarkyPuffinLovesDiane · 07/09/2011 18:03

You'd think, with a question to ask during PMQs and a speech to give afterwards, she might have 'stormed off' to go the toilet and to have a drink of water?

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Alibabaandthe80nappies · 07/09/2011 18:15

LRD - I'm not sure I understand the comparison. There is nothing wrong with the word 'frustrated', indeed it was probably the correct term.
It is unfortunate that the House picked up on the double-meaning, but that is all.

Mumsnut · 07/09/2011 18:22

I agree with Ali - he said something in all innocence, the House picked up on an alternative meaning, and it all turned silly. I don't see anything deliberate about it. I have seen meetings collapse in a similar way after hours of tension.

ThePerfectShitStorm · 07/09/2011 18:54

So if Cameron didn't do it deliberately, and this was the House being juvenile, why didn't Cameron, as PM, ask them to simmer down and grow up? Then answer Dorries' question?

ThePosieParker · 07/09/2011 19:57

DC is a dick, Dorries is a dick......but which one is the bigger dick?

FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT

LRDTheFeministDragon · 07/09/2011 20:00

Ali - he said something misogynistic, possibly accidentally. If he'd said something racist by accident, would that be ok? It's only funny if you think 'frustrated' is a reference the woman needing sex.

WhollyGhost · 07/09/2011 20:09

I've been told that MPs laughed so much, because it was a (possibly unintentional) in-joke relating to old rumours about Dorries - the ones that Damian McBride was sacked for spreading

smallwhitecat · 07/09/2011 22:10

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LRDTheFeministDragon · 07/09/2011 22:17

I've nothing important to think about at all, but always glad to be reminded of that fact.

It's your taxes pay for me to have free time, you know. Smile

smallwhitecat · 07/09/2011 22:21

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Alibabaandthe80nappies · 07/09/2011 22:24

But the same phrase could equally apply to a man, couldn't it? I really don't see the misogyny in it, I don't. Therefore completely unlike a racist comment, which in any case I can't see how you make 'accidently', because racist terms are what they are.

I agree that he ought really to have answered the question, but on the other hand our politicians swerve questions all the time, it is how things are - and bearing in the mind the question, I'm not surprised that he took the opportunity to duck it.

smallwhitecat · 07/09/2011 22:28

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LindsayWagner · 07/09/2011 22:29

I'm less appalled by DC than by the rest of the house - they provide the snerks to allow/induce DC to 'give up'.

NotADudeExactly · 08/09/2011 10:19

Watching this exchange on video actually reminded me of being bullied at school. The ringleader (DC) making some patronizing remark and everyone else laughing their arses off at her expense. Then there is the "frustrated" thing, which is obviously a loaded word in this context. It's actually really vile.

Dorries is an obnoxious stupid reactionary cow IMHO, but it's still sexist and wrong. The identity of the victim has nothing to do with whether the behaviour as such is acceptable.

MyGoldfishIsEvil · 08/09/2011 11:23

Really agree with NotADude's post.

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