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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Feminism and confirmation bias

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jennyvstheworld · 14/08/2011 18:03

It is an incontravertible truth that equality of opportunity is still often lacking in the UK and continues to require our attention. It is also true that power in society is achieved by adopting attributes more often found amongst men. Let us say, therefore, that the general tenets of feminism are correct.

Some people, however, seem to believe that because they are feminists (and because there is veracity in the notion of feminism), they themselves are incapable of making either an incorrect or even tenuous statement.

Mass generalisations are habitual, statistics - cherry-picked blindly from research without consideration of context or criteria - are thrown about to support dubious claims and the most minute and inconsequential event can be twisted to demonstrate conspiracy and oppression.

I offer the following as a statement made on this thread that no one saw fit to challenge:

"but where are the "good" male role models going to come from? men show no interest in teaching, little interest in community work, they are en masse opting out."

There are no good male role models? Men show no interest in teaching?? Men are not interested in community work? They are en masse opting out? (opting out of what - society? Community?) All four of these statements are erroneous and offensive and yet not one person - from all those who claim to believe in fairness and an end to the judgement of a person based on their gender - took issue with this.

This is just one of many examples. I have also seen opprobrium levelled at single-mothers and SAHMs. I have seen praise offered to successful women concurrent with condemnation of their male peers despite both forming part of the 'patriarchy'. There have also been a hundred other ill-conceived ideas that are accepted or condoned through silence because they fall under the feminist banner.

So my question is this: we are all guilty of confirmation bias to some extent; how guilty is feminism?

I will be interested to see how many replies demonstrate the hypothesis.

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jennyvaultsthewagons · 17/08/2011 22:57

Definitely leaving now! lol - keep getting drawn in. Just found another quote that relates to these last few posts though:

"The Dalai Lama was asked what surprises him most. He responded: Man, because he sacrifices his health in order to make money. Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health. And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present; the result being that he does not live in the present or the future; he lives as if he is never going to die, and then he dies having never lived."

Claw3 · 18/08/2011 00:05

Sorry Jenny, had to post and dash, had visitors. You are asking me to speak on behalf of all feminists, by asking why 'they' let views go without correcting them. Then listing 3 options from me to pick from as to why 'they' let views go without correcting them.

I cannot answer as obviously i do not speak for anyone but myself.

I am new to this section, so havent seen enough examples of what you are talking about or whether this is true or not.

I dont call myself a feminist, so my reply was not one of feminist, just my thoughts on why anyone would be guilty of confirmation bias.

Claw3 · 18/08/2011 01:02

Thought i should explain a bit, my views are still very basic, im still questioning them, which is why i dont call myself a feminist.

I have a disabled son and for years i have fought against disability discrimination and the rights of my son. This got me thinking why discriminate between men and women and how it isnt so different and perhaps i have more in common with feminism than i thought.

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