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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Do you object when you are referred to in the male form of your job title?

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headfairy · 08/08/2011 14:41

I'm not sure I'm phrasing this correctly... are you offended for example if you are referred to as a chairman rather than chairperson? Waiter instead of waitress? Actor instead of Actress?

One of the jobs I do is pretty male dominated and the job description is {jobname}man.... It just sounds odd to refer to it as {jobname}woman or {jobname}person. Should I insist on being referred to as a {jobname}woman/person?

Is any of this making any sense at all

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Pan · 08/08/2011 21:50

if the camera 'takes' images, we could use 'caminicker'. Oh maybe not.

TeiTetua · 08/08/2011 21:51

Ah, but a cinematographer is different. That's the person who sets up the shot in the way the director wants, and it's considered artistic. Not to knock camera, uh, operators, but they're considered to be technicians whose skill is running the camera. It's true that a still photographer would do the equivalent of both jobs, but I think in movies and TV it's different. Or is that all wrong? But in news video, there's no chance for a cinematographer to get to work, and no aim to be artistic. it would be very misleading to call a news cameraperson a "cinematographer".

JessinAvalon · 08/08/2011 21:56

I've been wondering about term would be used for a female "cameraman" for a while and I too would go for camera operator though it doesn't roll off the tongue as easily as cameraman does.

I object to terms like "chairman". You wouldn't get a male calling himself a "chairwoman" yet women I know think it's fine to be called a "chairman". I always say "chair" and other gender neutral terms.

BelfastBloke · 08/08/2011 21:57

Exactly, TeiT. Cinematographer already has a definition separate from Cameraman.

GrimmaTheNome · 08/08/2011 22:48

Ah,I stand corrected, my thesaurus had them as synonyms. But then again the OP said 'Camera technician sounds ... a bit technical. I'm an artist don'tcha know' - so if she's not already a cinematographer, maybe that's what she really wants to be. Grin

MsScarlettInTheLibrary · 08/08/2011 23:06

Videographer?

TeiTetua · 08/08/2011 23:35

A chair is a piece of furniture.

But a woman who presides over a meeting--you can address her as "Madam Chairman", and how wonderful is that? There are recompenses for not having one's gender fully recognized.

jasper · 08/08/2011 23:41

No

nooka · 09/08/2011 08:17

The only person I've ever head someone say "Madam Chairman' was an ancient old gimmer from another age. I bet he didn't call male chairs "Sir Chairman". Mostly in the sort of meetings I go to people call each other by their names.

PrettyCandles · 09/08/2011 09:23

He probably did, Nooka. Well, almost. The proper way to address the person chairing a meeting is "Mr Chairman" or "Madam Chairman".

slug · 09/08/2011 10:37

I'm a manager. But because I work in a very techie area, people always assume I should be male. I get many emails referring to me as "he", and have een once been introduced as "Slug, the blah blah Manager...she's a woman" Hmm

nooka · 11/08/2011 02:19

I thought it might be PrettyCandles. Which is interesting because Mr is not the equivalent of Madam is it. I guess Mrs Chairman would imply that the chair was married to the real chairman.

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