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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

How brave and smart is this girl?

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SpringchickenGoldBrass · 22/04/2011 09:58

Astoundingly. I wish I had had the nerve to do something like that in my teens.

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Thornham · 22/04/2011 10:08

Wow. That's enormously impressive and fairly amazing that she pulled it off. I wish her boyfriend's parents had been in on the secret though - they must feel quite odd about their imaginary grandchild.

TeddyMcardle · 22/04/2011 10:12

I don't really understand the point of the experiment, the school part maybe but to her own and her boyfriends family? Will they not have to go through a grieving process for the grandchild/nephew etc they thought was going to arrive? Seems cruel to me.
I think she could have made a powerful piece about actual teen mums. She obviously achieved what she wanted to but doesn't sit right with me.

snowmama · 22/04/2011 10:13

Bloody hell, that is some dedication and bravery...I also wish I had been brave enough to put myself in the line of fire like that. It makes such a powerful point on social mores and perceptions.

SpringchickenGoldBrass · 22/04/2011 10:15

The point of the experiment was to deliver a massive public slap to people's prejudices about young women's sexual morality. And I think she did it very effectively.
Interesting that the only people you feel sympathy for are the boyfriend's parents, though. HOw do you know they weren't threatening to cut the boyfriend off, or insisting he dump her or make her have an abortion?

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Thornham · 22/04/2011 10:16

It wasn't mentioned in the article, where it would have been relevant, and so I don't see a reason to presume the worst.

Tortington · 22/04/2011 10:18

amazing tenacity. eyebrow raising. thought provoking and very brave.

Goblinchild · 22/04/2011 10:18

It would have been interesting if the boyfriend had recorded the comments and attitudes of others to him as the father of the baby, and then compared the two sides.

Tortington · 22/04/2011 10:21

the article mentioned that the bfs parents thought it was going to be a boy - which means they had thought about a real baby and their lives in connection to that child.

i do agree on this point, that there may be a grieving process, in fact - if it were my sons girlfriend - i can see how invested i would be - even if i were disappointed

StewieGriffinsMom · 22/04/2011 10:36

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dittany · 22/04/2011 10:54

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TheMonster · 22/04/2011 10:59

I think she was wrong to mislead so many people.

TeddyMcardle · 22/04/2011 11:07

If my son's girlfriend was pregnant at 16 I would of course be disappointed but I would also feel very emotionally invested in that pregnancy and my first grandchild's arrival. If it was my younger sister I would feel the same. "When you're running a social experiment, you're dealing with human emotions. The human person in me felt I had been lied to." yeah imagine that from a family member. I think I'd have real trouble forgiving my sons girlfriend if she used me like this.
I would actually be more interested in the comments the young would be father received. That's not something that's often talked about. And here it doesn't get a mention either.

wibblewobble · 22/04/2011 11:07

dittany and bodyofeeyore are spot on.

EdwardorEricCantDecide · 22/04/2011 11:27

I kind of agree that it was wrong. If she was doing a social experiment on how people deal with terminal illness and pretended to have cancer for example, I doubt she would have been congratulated.

EdwardorEricCantDecide · 22/04/2011 11:30

Although I agree it might have been a more interesting experiment if comments to/about her bf had been recorded. And investigated the difference of how society treat teenage mothers compared to teenage fathers

PonceyMcPonce · 22/04/2011 11:36

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melpomene · 22/04/2011 13:08

I think the stunt was wrong too. And of course she wasn't really "experiencing what it's like to be pregnant" because she knew that her future life wouldn't be restricted by a baby, she wasn't experiencing morning sickness or having to worry about whether the baby was growing healthily, she didn't have to worry about getting through labour etc. It's not as bad as 'blacking up' in order to experience racism, but it's the same sort of principle.

Surely it would have been more informative to interview and study real teenage mums.

TheMonster · 22/04/2011 13:11

I think a day walking around, appearing to be pregnant and seeing the reaction from other people would have been enough.
I bet people were buying things for the baby.

bibbitybobbityhat · 22/04/2011 13:23

Gah! I loathe anything set up to deliberately mislead people.

pointydog · 22/04/2011 13:23

Agree with melpomene

StayingDavidTennantsGirl · 22/04/2011 13:24

If someone that I was close to lied to me about being pregnant, for the sake of a school project, I would feel hugely hurt and betrayed. People will have worried about her, thought about her future and how they could help her, looked forward to seeing the baby - only to find it was a lie. This seems wrong to me on so many levels.

SpringchickenGoldBrass · 22/04/2011 13:30

I still think she did an admirable thing. Remember the US has a much nastier attitude to teen sexuality than the UK, between the nati-abortion nutjobs and the hideous fathers-as-custodians-of-their-daughters-vaginas Purity Movement, giving them a big shake up was a good thing to do.

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pointydog · 22/04/2011 13:36

I don't really see how this gave anyone a big shake up, other than giving them a huge surprise at having been deceived.

BelleCurve · 22/04/2011 15:46

I really don't see the point of this experiment. I thought the most telling part of the whole article was the detailed description of her "form-fitting prom dress" at the end.

rainbowinthesky · 22/04/2011 15:49

Don't see that is was brave at all. As a parent of a teenage ds, this would have had a huge impact on me and dh.